believes on this. i mean, the world changes and mccain doesn't. i think he is sort of proudly old fashioned. in some ways that served him well, in other ways we can admire that. i saw the segment you did about the ads, and for the need to negotiate with people you don't agree with. and mccain, in the senate, is very much one of those people. but not so much when it comes to foreign policy. i don't think he will be changing his tune on this. >> i agree, i think it is genuinely felt. but what is so significant to me about this new kind of charm offensive for iran, iran represents the bid bad guy, the neocons have trained their eyes on him. what does it do to that entire movement and architecture of war-mongering, essentially, if you actually get a kind of iranian deal? >> it would destroy it. and chris, even before that,