a conversation. and i think you might be surprised. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. are you sick of republicans wrapping themselves up in religion? text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you results later on in the show. for me, liberal commentator john fugelsang and reverend barry lynn of americans united for the separation of church and state. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. john, you first. what do you think about republicans using the bible to justify food stamp cuts? >> well, ed, i spent the day at a soup kitchen here in hartford, connecticut, where i'm shooting a film with lots of people, men and women of different races and backgrounds, who would love to be working right now and paying taxes and contributing to society. but where are the jobs? and we hear this refrain all of the time from the republicans. they want to equate poor with lazy. that is the crown jewel in their