>> i think it's the latter. we did some extensive polling a year ago and of course a lot can change in a year, but the fans were adamantly in support of the nickname and don't really want to see it changed. we'll see if that changes. we've got another few months to go here and we'll see how this -- we'll see what happens over the next few months. >> what is fueling dan snyder's fight here? is he the kind of owner that says, listen, i'm right, i'm not bulging, i have enough money to wait them out. what's fueling the fire? >> i think it's more elementary for him. i think he grew up a redskins fan. he speaks about that. he loves the team, loves the nim name. there's something else at play here as well. i think the redskins are fundamentally opposed to change and they dig in and pefr change to come on their terms as opposed to being dictated you have to change this right now. >> in 1992 the patent and