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their broad body movements. and then wetta, who are amazing, i think these are some of the best effects that have been done, they take that performance and find a way to it on to the body of an ape. sandy circus doesn't look like an ape and it's a real alchemy that happens between an actor. we're lookinga the some of the technology that you guys used on screen and it is cool stuff. you don't have james frank owe in this film. was it possible -- >> briefly we do. was it possible to give him a larger role just through cgi? >> by the way. i will say this, it is possible to give him a larger role through cgi. of course, if we were going to do that we would just talk tofr think you should be in the movie and because it was about caesar and what he lost and his connections to the past. franco was meant to be a powerful ghost in the story and he was never going to be in the film, but i think if we wanted

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