sort of ignore him and stroll away. then, when they lift him into gurney, this is a big man. he weighs almost 400 pounds. this is where the piece of meat image comes to me. as brutal as i've ever seen, they almost drop him off of it. have him six inches above and rolls to his side. one of them grabs his legs to come off and another is holding the back of his t-shirt to keep him from falling off. it just isn't how you want to see any human being treated and emts and police and people you sort of expect to protect handling it that way. >> and, marc, you were in the nypd for 20 years. when you look at this second video, does it show an unusual lack of compassion or just business as usual? >> it shows a lack of compassion. and i think, unfortunately, give on the climate that we're in, it's not even unusual any more. you know, i read mr. segel's piece. you know, a wonderful piece