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thing, which is aspiration. so what defines the difference between having a big idea and a gigantic idea is the aspiration of the entrepreneur. are they thinking on a mass scale basis from the get-go. and that's really i think a defining factor. it's what makes an idea big versus small. it is this relentless perception and better way and a boldness around that. >> if you're julie, maybe you don't always want to invest in the genius but the great business person. when you find the person who is both, then aren't you lucky and isn't the world lucky? thanks, guys. i think this is a fun topic to talk about. we went through a big list of geniuses. there are so many more in all kinds of fields that we will be talking about on msnbc this week coming up a lot more help

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