>> well, i'm not exactly sure what the impetus was, but the port commissioners, there are five elected folks from king county, held a public meeting to discuss it. they announced it, they gave us a few days' notice, then went on and signed the deal. >> describe to me what the citizen and politics reaction to it has been? >> well, as you can imagine, seattle does not support drilling in the arctic. such a behavior is both destructive to the natural environment up in the arctic and po stench 5th here in seattle. the climate change thread is so real. any world where we're pulling oil out of the arctic and into the atmosphere is where we've well surpassed that temperature rise that's sustainable on our planet. >> i think this is a key point and people think about it in big, abstract terms, but every bit of oil infrastructure and fossil fuel extraction has to happen somewhere, a coal export