getting these knives around? >> it's easy. anybody who's got a sewing needle can make a knife. a sewing needle is made out of stainless steel. and stainless steel will cut this metal that they use. so over a period of time, you can shape a knife out of your toilet as long as the cops don't find the pattern cut in your toilet. there's many things you can do to make weapons back here. it's not that hard. usually we got them out when we did haircuts because they pull us out of the cell and take us out to the concrete yard to cut hair. that's when we would drop the knife off. and when they came to search for us for yard, they didn't find anything. we went out to the yard and found the knife that we already stashed previously, and that's how we got it out. some inmates choose to do it a little immorally. they put it in places where the sun don't shine, and they carry it out in the yard. that's how they get their knives out. i wasn't about to do that. >> jeremy's weapon smuggling
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