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and also with us -- i love walmart, by the way. and barney frank. patriot act. what do you think about what rapped paul is rand paul is doing? >> i don't think it's responsible. sensenbrenner got the entire judiciary committee to vote for a bill that went out that i think would have protected us and avoided a lot of the controversy. and it went to the house rules committee and dick cheney didn't like it and it was totally rewritten and in the end i voted against it. i think that there is exaggeration on both sides. i think there is exaggeration on the threats to national security and on the threat to privacy. and in fairness to the security people, a lot of people on the

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