your introduction, he makes haymakers at very humorless people, like jeb bush. is there a more humorless person this side of the faces on mt. rushmore than mitt romney. do you understand what a target-rich environment for somebody like donald trump mitt romney would be? my goodness. >> this is an excellent point. we could only imagine the fun trump would be having with romney, were he in it. but what's striking to me about the way jeb bush has decided to go after trump is, a, it's almost identical to how rand paul went after him. and what it stresses is orthodoxy. this guys likes hillary clinton and he doesn't have our same principles. and i think it just massively this guys likes hillary clinton and he doesn't have our same principles. and i think it just massively misreaded the mood of the base, that principles or orthodoxy are what they're interested in, as opposed to talking tough and being strong and not being weak and taking on political correctness. and all of these kind of attributes as opposed to belief systems or policies.