into the political but they doesn't see to be so aggressive in running down some of these allegations of foreign hacking, russian hacking, attacks on the delegates and the dnc. what do you make of that? >> it's a very important point. i want to clarify that. there's what we see and there's what we don't see. you're absolutely right. the investigative arm, which tend to fall under the criminal auspices of the fbi is very vocal and above the waterline. the counterintelligence area, which is where this would fall, one area is investigation and the other is operations. it tends to be the fact that the fbi and intelligence community does not discuss these types of operations. just because you don't hear about it, one should not make the mistake it is not happening. i would not be surprised that donald trump loses the election, come thursday or the day after that we don't see results of those investigations and operations. it's clear there's a far nexus