the big scandal. and that, in the modern era, is the closest we have ever come as a country to a presidential scandal involving the dispensation of the president's personal assets and personal finances during his time running for the presidency and being the president. that's as close to a scandal as we have ever come. and that was a pipsqueak's worth of presidential assets. it wasn't really a blind trust. and that's the scale with which this has been chased and litigated before. but if you take six months, you could make six months of scandal and a special prosecutor and a whole new gate word scandal out of that bit of nothing from squeaky clean jimmy carter, then what are we getting ourselves into right now? >> let me ask whether any of you think that the campaign has hurt the trump brand? >> i don't think it matter. this is so much more important. and more serious.