the trump campaign coordinated with them? not so far. so, if they tampered with releasing information, we know -- look, i think it's a fair point that the dnc didn't have enough safeguards to allow the russian hackings but the russians are the bad characters and donald trump should show concern and move on. i don't know what he is so concerned about. >> let me ask you both quickly because we just got another tweet from kellyanne conway affirming what nbc news has reported, essentially, that jared kushner will be a senior adviser to the president. she said the official announcement could come quickly. it will be quite a power couple, jared kushner, ivanka trump. any problem with that? >> at least a former senate chief of staff and someone working campaigns, when you have multiple power centers it creates a challenging environment, to say the least. i think the most difficult job, to really frank, is going to be reince priebus because he's going to be chief of staff in