in the news all the time every day, calling the shots, holding press conferences everybody has to go to and setting the agenda with advisers who get paid by you. >> did you notice -- >> this is a good business to be in. >> did you notice during the presser when his lawyer said he's not going to know anything about this. >> that's not possible. >> unless he sees it in the news or the papers. the fact that he's going to learn about it, period, doesn't that -- >> first of all it will be in the news and paper, even when we didn't care about what donald trump did. >> how can you not be accepted by it if you know about it. >> he talks all the time about this. >> be creative, we're doing a huge deal with the trump organization. we're excited about it. the people who are in the deals may want him to do it. >> the influence is very easy to get if you come out publicly and say it. donald trump doesn't have to respond to that influence, but his actions, i mean it's going to be a question throughout his entire presidency, quwhat he is