hasn't been a constant for many years, the end of the meal versus the arrival. >> exactly. that would be pretty close to time interval and thus wouldn't matter that the lunch was late. anyhow -- >> they're screwing this up, man. i mean -- >> those are humans on the roof, and we are aware of them. they are members of the counterassault team, the cat team at u.s. secret service, they are posted on the roof. that is a post as much as a guard shack is on the ground. and there is the reviewing stand. and any moment now, the trumps will come out the north entrance there of the white house, walk along that honor guard past our camera positions there on the right. on the wooden platform, and take their position and the reviewing stand. >> speaking of personnel and the transition reports of conflict between secretary mattis and the trump administration and the white house with regard to his