color, for being intellectually sound. being intelligent. that is divorced from the way that they talk. >> yeah. >> and that a woman who spoke this way, the way that we hear trump just -- the way he speaks, would not be given credit for knowing what she's doing or knowing what she's talking about if she spoke that way. >> you're talking right past me. i mean, the elephant in the room is clearly m t you're -- i don't even deserve to be here, but i don't want to mansplaine. >> you're interrupting. there we go. i don't know if it's a difference between men and women, people of color, white people. i think we assume that elected leaders are more intelligent, perhaps, than they are. and it is why an opinion columnist to say it -- i don't think he understands the subject matter. it is like the kid who never read the book and is giving the book report. and you kind of fill in the blampgs. and we even saw it at the nra convention. we need the wall. why? don't ask. but there's just no argument.