president doing sglthat? >> i would say, before we call to a foreign leader, here are the talking points. don't go off script and if something came up during the conversation, i'd be standing next to the president and i would handwrite note don't answer that or stay away or whatever in real time. but the president's i worked for they were experienced, they knew what was sensitive. they were cautious about things having to do with national security. he doesn't seem to understand you need to be cautious. he realizes you can get away with it. remember his famous remark about standing in the middle of fifth avenue and killing someone and his fans would still be with him. that gives us an insight into him. >> you think he was being serious? >> no, i think he believes he