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begin to have a conversation with sunni neighbors. they're already pretty good with egypt and jordan. could that be expanded to saudi arabia and the gulf states? that's the interesting strategic move at this point. you're absolutely right. it further pushes the peace process to one side. >> admiral, doesn't the sunni/shi'a divide in the middle east, doesn't that define our era right now in terms of middle east peace just like after israel's statehood in '48 you could look at what happened in '67, what happened in 73, what happened with the peace accords. all these big events that have happened but right now doesn't it seem that at least what goes on in the middle east is going to be framed more by this sunni shi'a divide than any divide between arabs and israel? >> i completely agree and sometimes people ask me, joe, how long will this go on, the sunni shi'a conflicts which effectively a religious conflict

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