manafort is is e-mailing him as using it as a means to get made whole with a shady russian oligarch. malcolm, this question of ties to russian intelligence, that terms ties is nonspecific. i never know what to do with it. people would say ties to terrorists and organized crime, ties to intelligence. how should we interpret that here? >> well, first off, klimnik's background as a translator is not just a transer, he was was russia military intelligence. they don't just produce translators to do point to point upon interpretation. he was either a human intelligence officer or from their signals is intelligence side which means he's still out there collecting intelligence on people and that was his background. when he was in the ukraine working with manafort as the translator so to speak, he was also a liaison. he would have to be. every good translator is the
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