what michael was just referring to. when he was shot down and held captive in vietnam. >> senator, when you woke up this morning, did you say to yourself, where was i 50 years ago in. >> i did. and i thought, wow, maybe i zigged when i should have zagged. and i thought about it. but i also thought about, tom, about the heros that i have known and the benefit of having served in the company of heroes and the -- i'm the luckiest guy you will ever talk to. >> want to hanoi and i stood at the edge of the lake and i got emotional thinking about you and going down a second time and them grabbing you and doing all of that. does that memory ever fade for you? is it there constantly or can you park it somewhere? >> it doesn't fade. but i have parked it. tom, in life we have to go on. and put it behind us and be