i'd love to have her. at this point it's looking like -- it's looking like he perhaps won't be or isn't around and that's very sad. i think we would have known by now. that was our first hope. our first hope was that he was not killed, but maybe that's not looking too good, right? from what we're learning. >> there's a lot still to learn, mr. president. >> but there's a lot to learn, okay. >> reporter: three employees of the u.s. consulate in turkey prison, what efforts are being made? >> efforts are under way. there are many people who have been there for many years. we have at least 18 and the 18 were people that they said would never, ever be freed. by the way, pastor brunson was