same thing. child separation was to be a deterrent. what we're seeing at the border that's slowing asylum seekers down is a deterrent. this is a chilling effect. that's where their energy is focused. not focused on a comprehensive solution. >> it's a chuck and nancy reboot. no reason for them to trust donald trump based on the last round of negotiations. but if this was this time to go into shutdown mode, it seems that donald trump kind of won the last time but after the mid-term elections how concerned are republicans that the unpopularity of donald trump will really start to touch them? >> they should be concerned especially based on the polling numbers that you all were just looking at. democrats feel they have all the cards, right? >> they felt that way the last time. >> also at the same time they were operating in a context in which they wanted to be able to