democratic party, which joe manchin really doesn't have to -- >> all politics is local. donald trump won west virginia by 69%. >> most pro-trump state in the entire union. you're absolutely right. and look, the voting rights, i'm much more skeptical about it. that list will be a non-starter for the congressional black caucus. it does allow him to say, hey, civil rights groups, i'm listening to you. i'm trying on this. chuck schumer will put him on the spot next week. infrastructure, i think, is a completely different situation. and i also think that there is a point, potentially, where manchin gets so frustrated with this, with republicans, that, you know, he may actually move. and i think that gives him some additional power here in this situation. because what he's saying behind the scenes about the filibuster and about a lot of this legislation is, it's a little bit different than what he says in public. >> well, it is. and there was actually leaked audio that came out where he