The Coronavirus is here forever. This is how we live with it. That was the rather foreboding headline from a recent article in The Atlantic which quoted a number of leading medical authorities, including New Zealander Dr Richard Webby. Dr Webby, an infectious disease researcher at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, knows a thing or two about big, bad diseases, having been an early responder during the 1997 Hong Kong avian flu outbreak (for which he developed a vaccine). He joins the show from Memphis to discuss what life with the coronavirus is going to be like and how we're all going to catch it eventually.