Transcripts For DW DocFilm - North Korea V The World What Do

DW DocFilm - North Korea V The World What Does Kim Jong Un Want February 19, 2018

Said he always has his finger on the Nuclear Button locked in a high stakes poker game with the us we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. But does kim jong un really have Nuclear Warheads and the missiles to deliver them some experts dont think he does at least not yet. There are no real plugs this would vibrate it looks like its from the local Hardware Store. Its not negotiating until he has his full full Nuclear Deterrence and the world knows it. Its early in the morning and were heading to a depot for decommissioned rockets. Im accompanied by an arms and security expert marcos. He studied north koreas bomb and missile tests though hes never visited the country. Ive been there several times as a reporter. All i ever saw its allegedly combat ready army were trucks powered by wood gas. This is footage shot in secret of a starving in favor of the land. Here in the fog schiller is sure well find rockets just like the ones north korea as we are in fact in ukraine and driving to an old soviet military base near odessa. Sure that does not believe north korea has the capability to develop missiles by itself or at high speed. By. Any explanation in my view is that they have received help if it is easier if you buy stuff than if you build it all yourself. Miss rocket looks familiar sure. Theres an official focus is a solid propellant rocket fuel how surprising that north korea suddenly had some that whacked. Is going to compare what we found at this depot to photos from north korea this is a turbopump a key component in any rocket when a total. Feeds fuel out of the Combustion Chamber of the rocket engine for the tanks its like a fuel injection. Such advanced Metals Technology is not something any country could develop overnight. At the airport in odessa compares his photos with propaganda material from north korea. On the left a rocket in the air that was twenty twelve if you see how similar the calories the white band around the nose and another one of the rear on the motor column. Of the part is enough yet at the range we see the shape quite clearly this it is identical this is the same model. And that russian turbopump also reappears in p. R. Pictures with cumin from twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. In total company this is the turbopump we just saw. A look at the exhaust outlet and then look at this one on the engine and. Even they look surprisingly similar they have the same shape and the tides. Kim jong un may boast about the capabilities of his homemade rockets but are they really up to snuff or is he putting on a show to intimidate the United States long range Ballistic Missiles capable of hitting the us mainland. German Aerospace Engineer professor. Is convinced kim is bluffing hes based in munich he was a u. N. Weapons inspector in iraq and he used to design rockets himself with the economy right there is so sure good chiller have worked together on analyzing north koreas Missile Program they conclude that kim jong own must have received considerable help from abroad. In particular from the former soviet union. Peace is deeply ak is in didnt see this engine was built in the one nine hundred seventy s. Then came disarmament and they were decommissioned. Ming and that means lots of these engines are lying around somewhere in depots and if a dozen or two go missing whos going to notice thats. Simply copying a design he says is not an option. The engines are extremely complex that scene inside its three thousand degrees kelvin thats almost as hard as the sun. And the pressure is a mans plus the engines have to be very light made of thin sheet metal to get all that right takes a long time and a lot of practice. To be. What about the submarine launched by listing missiles north korea claims to have developed the evidence is not convincing on some photos they have rather flaps on others they dont hear entire sections are missing. It also became really observed the first launch from such close quarters is unthinkable. Ten tons of solid fuel were flying out of the water if it had exploded came ship would have been totally destroyed. Huge missiles are regularly on display at military parades in pyongyang our experts say theyre fakes amateurish fakes says he and they want to show off how much theyve got but its just cobbled together smoke and mirrors. Theyre examples of the very same model of missile looks different. Its like if you compare the same spot on the one missile the gap between the fins is much greater than on the other. This one has a trap the other doesnt. Which so badly made you really have to feel sorry for them. By head to south korea and to discuss the matter with experts there they also think the norths Nuclear Weapons and Ballistic Missiles program is more blood than substance as. The south korean capital seoul is just fifty kilometers from the border within reach of conventional artillery. Fire from the north twenty five Million People live in the metropolitan area. The last time north korea reversed a large scale attack was in spring two thousand and seventeen kim jong un was there to watch. His great enemy the United States has close to thirty thousand servicemen and women stationed in south korea. And so on i go to see chad ocarroll hes a security analyst and journalist and runs the n. K. News website he says it would be wrong to underestimate north koreas military capabilities. Were in for the buff very from a u. S. Military perspective the department of defense has to take seriously any risk that i miss all and reach the east or west course of the United States and were now basically at war and so even if its a one in five chance that twenty Million People can die what is you know what does that really mean we have to take that seriously. Ok errol agrees that north korea receives assistance from abroad it shows me satellite images of a recent military parade in pyongyang. To the left of the crowd or a row of missiles on trucks he says many of the transporters were imported from china and there are more of them than previously believed. Ok we can see about two one or two kilometers away from kim il sungs square where the viewing took place and there is one spare unit of every cell type tank you name it. Japan is evidently the source for other equipment such as special cranes crane in these fights eyes which come from north korean state media you can see the crane is actually being used to to lift the missile from the seventy gone on to the transporter erector launcher and just the idea that in full twenty seventeen way theres so much scrutiny on north Korea Special Weapons Programs its very difficult to sort of understand that. It looks like United Nations sanctions on north korea including an extensive trade embargo are not being fully implemented we drive along the hundred river towards its esther where to look across at north korea. Nearby is the joint security area at panmunjom the only spot on the border where soldiers from the two koreas come face to face. In january delegations from the north and south met here. Such a handshake a rare and stunning event. This is the north making nice. But last december it showed its cruel face at the same spot. A north korean soldier defected and came under fire from the north even after he had crossed into the south. That was a violation of the korean honest disagreement he was rescued by south korean soldiers and flown don a special he has since recovered from his wounds. While the border between the two koreas is closed the one between the north and china is open. This is the chinese city of dun dont. And this is the view across the yalu river to north korea the friendship bridge links the two countries and is a major conduit for goods going in both directions. I mean we have a couple sources in down down as well this is a convoy of trucks going through the chinese Customs House just before they cross the friendship bridge but you can see the share of the varies you would need an army people to be coming here everything and the current u. N. Sanctions or stance of europe all of this to be very thorough he says to ensure his knife materials that may breach sanctions but on a good day you might have two three hundred of these kind of trucks possibly the bridge. And each one of them you know maybe forty tons past the is a lot of stuff. But. These arent north korean weapons but those of south korea and the United States. They regularly conduct joint maneuvers in the south which regularly rile keep drawing on his enemies flexing their muscles all the more reason he feels he needs Nuclear Weapons to defend his country and himself who would want to end up like those other dictators Saddam Hussein in iraq and Walmart Gadhafi in libya for a year or close aboard the korean war ended in one nine hundred fifty three but a peace treaty has yet to be signed u. S. Bombing devastated the north people there have not forgotten while relations between the two koreas have been mainly tense there have also been episodes of engagement and determined. In two thousand south korean president kim dae joan visited pyongyang to meet north Korean Leader kim jong il the father of kim jong un. Kim de jong received the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to promote peace and reconciliation. An architect of his sunshine policy of reconciliation was join me and moon there was a time when north korea and the United States even talked to each other was that possible very simple ok well i would there was a train succumbs to insist unites to the United States listen to what North Koreans was saying ok and they didnt demonize north korea they treat north korea is a normal count and leadership commitment was another important factor and there was a pretty effective in the Communication Channels moon says things might not be so bad now if the Current Us Administration were willing to negotiate instead the us president derides and threatens kim jong on. Rocket man is on a Suicide Mission for himself and for his regime those kinds of socalled the hostile rhetorics could be very very counter productive and honestly he has been elevating can do instead has to he still has. Tells us he remains committed to dialogue even though he too has been the target of verbal attacks from north korea. Vietnam and ive not. Met the North Koreans and i told the North Koreans ok ok i came here the dog american imperialist here how the hell do you can you can criticize me in that way i can walk meet you whos on my heart and i made a big shouting at the north koreas and head of the north korean delegation told me that if mr moon did to provoke and all the egyptian and how. To put them into the united front we have a different view what propaganda to propaganda dont be detracted dont be disturbed by it to put. You. Know you are outsiders its even harder to distinguish between propaganda and policy reliable information about the kim dynasty which has ruled north korea for three generations now is also hard to come by. The current leader kim jong un has seen more of the outside world than one might imagine. We are heading to a suburb of burnt in switzerland to meet a teacher. In the late ninetys there was a north korean boy in his seventh grade class. It was said he was the son of somebody who worked at the embassy. For is to stand park he was introduced as own pocket for me he was just a regular boy he spoke a german if we were able to communicate like sporty clothes basketball attire n. B. A. Gear quite often both i and i think he was one of the first people i knew who had an m p three player still in a small i named peter i played. Years later facial analysis concluded with ninety five percent certainty that the boy really was kim. Reason says he was confident but not brash despite the expensive gear. Twenty three opened their shirts like that cost one hundred francs the night the trousers to the nike air trainers three hundred and he had lots of pairs but it was a show off night no he didnt flaunted them he did not try to be anything special. I found him to be a well adjusted young lad with mine you see hed only postie a little. While the Young Kim Jong on enjoyed his ninetys in switzerland starvation was killing countless children back home crop failure any fish and agriculture economic mismanagement but the regime always blamed its arch enemy the United States. In two thousand and one came jones oldest half brother kim jong nam was arrested at tokyo airport trying to enter japan on a fake Dominican Republic passport he said he wanted to visit disneyland. In the one nine hundred seventy s. And eightys north korea abducted a number of children and young adults from japan so they could teach japanese to it spies decades later a few were allowed to return home. In two thousand and two north korea finally revealed what it had done people in japan were aghast. Junichiro koizumi was Prime Minister of japan at the time he and his diplomats had persuaded north korea to make that admission meant to apologize as a precondition for moves to start normalizing bilateral relations. But laying the groundwork took a lot of preparation this process highlighted the tricky moral issues involved in dealing with despots itoshi tanaka a Senior Advisor to koizumi held many secret talks with the north. Five. Times. Negotiation negotiation all time took place in the weekends there are a couple of gives me that one is the trip by the japanese Prime Minister to north korea because of kim jong il. The getting up and japanese Prime Minister to come to north korea itself is kind of big. To fill to the people here we. Must stop. Now Prime Minister came to this country to apologize for not. The regime said that five of those abducted were still alive and they would be allowed to visit japan without issue seemingly resolved to signed a joint declaration relations looked like they might be on the map. Crimea is immediately we would like to see the party survivors so. That sort of meeting to take days. To see that we beat that is a key element for us. Krishnan of trust will trust me its difficult to verify. Anything because its a secret mission and its not the mcgraths ignition therefore there is no accountability those five survivors remained in japan north korea said they had to be sent back and accused the japanese government of breaking its promise charges you know that you broke a promise no i said. Youre kidding because also our job here is who up ducted but you how could you sort of. Decide the fate of the people. Another act of terror any given the estranged half brother was evidently considered a threat so kim jong un had him murdered if you doubt it was used during the attack took place in public at kuala lumpur airport. Kim jong nam was about to fly to macau where he was living in exile he was caught on Surveillance Video just minutes before he died. In the malaysian authorities wont talk about the case all requests for interviews with investigators and other officials were rejected but we did find a journalist willing to discuss it. I get a phone call from my father the fact that the police were saying we just figured this out there was this sort of an assessment a suspicion of poisoning it kept it a budget at work and we assumed it that i was a software thats always a lot and hes the son of. Kim jong il right kingery as they already yeah hes a half brother of us you know well what happened so we do a little but he was price it right every father a fan bit of money bought a few thousand u. S. D. It was bad. Investigators determined that two young women one from vietnam and the other from indonesia had each smeared something on kim jong space the components of a chemical weapon the b. X. Nerve agent. This to it with a smile that even dave read off. He stated a physician told at a ball accident budget or he said he wasnt feeling well he was spit something and if you can state clearly that it took it this it will fetch it you hated it we gave it a hospital and he died they were could fifty a college so who would have to live it was. The first account was a distro would be his people one was hes made a decision was made the vietnamese lady was his good friend and it changed all they did not he did not know who he was. And what they would they were hired to do this Police Identified further suspects men with ties to the north korean embassy. North korea responded by detaining malaysian nationals in pyongyang as hostages so they could do a prisoner swap. He wanted to arrest them because they dont have diplomatic status. I do what happened was that a standoff between the malaysian government and the north was the impression from outside is that theres a country there was a case they were doing an excellent job in investigating arresting and then they led the ones go that were to be charged actually they ridicule they be let go if i will they are clearly the deal but they would let go in exchange for the Night Missions come back because we have such a special relationship with direct flights we could get everything they could come here with a visa as it was such a special relationship effect up to last year we had offloaded what this looking all cool minds at the border youre right that it doesnt because were good because we dropped the ball yeah but you know in the scheme of all the things people talk

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