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DW DocFilm July 14, 2024

This is what suni. She is a hologram. And this is akihito condo her husband were one you know. I love. You look i want you today. I love culture ends. Meet cool is a simple form of Artificial Intelligence and for condo it was a case of love at 1st sight who has become a legitimate pop star and even appears at concerts as a 3 d. Projection. In nov 28th condo married nico at a ceremony in tokyo to place the ring around the wrist of a me coup dall he now keeps that all in his bedroom. Condos relationships with real women have been painful so he chose a virtual partner. Were generalized i love her but its hard to say if she loves me hundreds of them still if you asked her i think shed say yes. To. The tsunami cool and akihito condo are an extreme example of the relationship between people and machines and a double. In the future well no doubt spend more time interacting with technology that uses Artificial Intelligence or ai. We may even develop robots that are smarter than we are. Now in the 21st century we will have to decide how to deal with this complicated new situation. And. For this report we interviewed philosophers and scientists around the world. We talked to german philosopher Thomas Metzinger who advocates the use of ethics guidelines for Ai Development in the e. U. Physicist max tegmark who warns about the development of an all powerful ai and a totalitarian surveillance state. And german Computer Scientist youre going to schmidt who who predicts that ai will spread from the earth into the cosmos. We met professor schmidt who at a business conference in zurich he often speaks at such events where he outlines his vision of the role that Artificial Intelligence may play in our future. You bought it she. His presentations are wide ranging and thought provoking. Answers in the near future perhaps a few decades from now we will for the 1st time have a i can do much more than people can do right now in their own was willing to matter and we would realize that the majority of physical resources are not confined to a rather small biosphere isnt in our solar system as there is a lot of the tiriel that can be used to build robots we could develop robots transmitters and receivers that would allow the ai to be sent and received the speed of light. We can already do this in a laboratory or c. S. I. Me on senator this will be a Huge Development traps the most important since the beginning of life and earth trina her 5000000000 years ago had done assessments of the morgue. But if the professors vision accurate. Will humans at some point be overtaken by super intelligent machines. Perhaps this process has already begun. To find out more we travel to japan. Doctors and scientists at the university of tokyo as Research Hospital are exploring the potential use of ai in medicine. You know. 69 year old Jaco Yamashita nearly died of leukemia 2 years ago none of the therapy options recommended by doctors did any good for him. In putting it then they used Ai Technology to create a new diagnosis. Yet for you west and they are literally saved her life i mean just get all. The diagnosis took all of 10 minutes a human expert would have needed 2 weeks to produce a similar analysis. Ai can process massive amounts of Scientific Data a stack of documents taller than mount fuji. This is the Research Hospitals supercomputer. We come here to talk to such tolu miano an expert on bioinformatics we asked me on whether ai could one day replace doctors no i dont think so. Leave simply for. Clinicians in any form or not only need. The limitations on follow you and nobody not. Theyre not told intelligence lets just go. Someplace known for if you can move here and be. Good then we need a car. And this is the same. Bullet hole of 3 we are trying to live and some ways to but. At the nearby rican Institute Researchers are developing an ai diagnostic program that could be used to test for stomach cancer. But one expert here disagrees with that toral me on his opinion that ai will never replace doctors. So i dont know a lot about it all she will tell if you were made redundant by Artificial Intelligence that wouldnt be good for his doctors what it should have but for the human race would actually be greater doctors were no longer necessary if Ai Technology could improve or work or even take over. That. Its hard to imagine a world that had no doctors. Do patients really want to be treated by machines that see them as nothing more than accumulations of technical data. In europe a number of experts on Artificial Intelligence including youre going to need who are carrying out research on the use of ai in medical diagnostics. The swiss president i lambast say has invited scientists and entrepreneurs to a conference and aimed at planning for the Digital Future and promoting the use of Artificial Intelligence in medicine. One topic for discussion is Ai Technology that can use Neural Networks to learn just as the human brain does. By. Soon all medical diagnostics will be infinitely better than humans can provide right now. Because we have developed ai that uses Neural Network technology. Thats just. Ahead and its exciting to see how this new development will be able to help people to live longer earn healthier lives just leave them fewer mention. We travel to stick guard to see how Artificial Intelligence works in practice in hospitals and Nursing Homes Computer Scientists bigot cough says that japan has made a lot of progress in developing robots that can look after patients but there are some things that a machine simply cant do. Play given by those involved they cant provide real care so i dont use that word when im talking about robots and caregivers have to be able to interact emotionally with the patients and a robot simply cant do that. Doesnt thing if you come up with a set at this facility robots are helping to reduce the workload of the human staff. Each time im carol but 3 this week im helping the nurses with their work would you like something to drink and no thanks thats very kind of a year when he had work on the. And. Of course robots can do much more than simply serve drinks in Nursing Homes. Philosopher Thomas Metzinger has proposed Pragmatic Solutions for dealing with this new technology. And the frog available for example the options for using a robotics in geriatric care he should maintain the dignity of the patients. It occurred to money often i could ask individuals if theyd actually feel more comfortable having a machine change their diapers rather than a Family Member and just going to do it shows as a sign of a school whether that enjoy having a machine read the newspaper to them or ask questions about their medication or if they find that degrading i believe that we are now at the beginning of a major learning process. Im from and this is torsion down for. Metzinger says that humankind is now on the threshold of a new age that is filled with uncertainty he lives in frankfurt a city that aims to take the lead in european Ai Development. There are plans to set up an Artificial Intelligence Research Center there. Are towards your own volatiles people are rushing to get into this new technology. Like theyre running for the ai train before it leaves the station. Of a no one knows when that will happen over the train is headed off. But Everyone Wants to be on board have to call. Metzinger serves on a European Parliament commission of ai experts and right now hes on his way to brussels for a Commission Meeting. The parliament wants europe to compete effectively end of elevating this technology but it also wants to impose clear ethical guidelines. Metzinger is particularly concerned about the prospects for a new arms race that uses ai based weapons. In concrete or spice heres a hypothetical example. That say that assume of Chinese Technology experts go to the countrys leaders and says weve now won you the ai arms race against the us well have an excellent 1st strike opportunity for the next 6 months i know the book is then work for the window of opportunity will close it for the next 6 more not done treaties aside and start. Current events in boston i could imagine for example that this might involve Delivery Systems that would be armed with biological warfare agents to skew those call these mechanisms identify the opponents territories and spread pathogens like the a bowl a virus or anthrax bacteria on the ground part. I would ask my country for justice also we may 1 day see the development of intelligent weapons of mass destruction that could break through traditional defense systems. If that were to happen it would definitely increase the chances for conflict of these attentional nuki creaks ein time its really a visa. But at the Commission Meeting metzinger is having a tough time trying to make sure that the problem of ai Weapons Systems is addressed in the panels code of ethics. Many many of the Business Executives and academics simply dont want to deal with it which you. Know you know some are concerned about messing his proposal and would prefer to turn it over to experts for further evaluation. Was or was. Reversed by the way we have to stick with this. I would actually mention there are no other evidence of his homes and people there that would use it as a use case to build it or it could be just to our guys i would like to take it and it is that kind of a consensus around the table and then we want to open up to that point ok we obviously have a strong disagreement about the whole alten on this weapon systems here and we cant solve the issue like this with a voting process i mean we want these ethical guidelines to be a success when they are published 22nd january the whole world has already been talking about the issue 24000 scientists have signed a public pledge that. They will not participate in that kind of research if the e. U. Comes out with 6 guidelines that seem peacekeeper over that issue and ignore it then everybody in and outside of see you would know this is probably just an industrial anything or something in the end metzinger prevails autonomous weapon systems will be included in the panels ethics guidelines experts in other parts of the world are also concerned about the potential for developing ai weapons of mass destruction. Weve come to boston massachusetts to talk to swedish american physicist author and expert max tegmark. He says that physics has made enormous contributions to Human Development but also helped to create the nuclear bomb and now well have to deal with ai weapons. We should stigmatizing back and some certain class really discuss the weapons that are perfect for terrorists and honestly murder people or the cater ships through nominees to murder their citizens because these weapons are going to be incredibly cheap and if anyone goes and mass produces them theyre going to become as unstoppable in the future as the studies are for example cheap drones that you might be able to buy for a few 100 euros where you just program in the address of somebody and we see their face its lies there in the place in the face recognition kills themselves just perfect for anyone who wants to murder some politician who actually plans in going to give it up and if this sort of thing the slaughter bots becomes widespread its going to have an absolutely devastating effect on the open society that we have. Nobody anymore is going to feel they have the courage to. Challenge the criticize anybody. Any science can be used for new ways of helping people or new ways of harming people biologists succeeded in getting biological weapons bad which is why we think of biology as the source of new cures physicists on the other hand we kind of failed because Nuclear Weapons are still here and not going away ai researchers want to be more like the biologists and have ai be remembered is something which really made the world better. Weve come to lugano switzerland to interview youre going about his work with Artificial Intelligence. Goober is codirector of the dalai institute for Artificial Intelligence research. His work focuses on Neural Networks which imitate the functions of the human brain. These networks are capable of learning and adapting to the world around them just as human children do. That right now the human brain has a 1000000 times more neural connections than the best ai systems. But computers are becoming much faster and could become smarter than humans in 20 or 30 years. And. Says that when that happens the only things that would distinguish people from machines would be flesh and blood. But what about human attributes such as compassion creativity love and empathy. Whats your own soon i dont think i systems are capable of developing their own versions of emotion and affection on the down and for example if you were to give several of these systems it turns out that they could only complete by working together they would learn how to do that you know came clear artificial brains would come to the conclusion that to get the job done they have to cooperate with each other or i can get and use a scene where americans see an. Injury in this interaction the systems would learn to rely on each other. So theres a reason to believe that one of the side effects of this cooperative efforts would be the development of concepts such as love and affection as an even effect. On. What can Artificial Intelligence systems learn to empathize with humans. And you. Want to be returned to brussels where the Ethics Committee is discussing the topic of social ai. Some ai systems are already pretty capable of functioning just as humans would. Thomas metzinger has called for clear guidelines that govern the interaction between people and machines. And just call for a systems that dont identify themselves as such when theyre dealing with humans as opposed. To give people the impression that theyre a real person and not a machine thats host. Should never be allowed to manipulate the people who can use it. You know. Last year at a conference near San Francisco google c. E. O. Sundar pichai unveiled the companys latest product it involves just the sort of technology that Thomas Metzinger warned about. Good morning. Welcome to google is going to impact many many fields our vision for our system is to help you get things done. It turns out big part of getting things done is making a phone call you may want to get an Oil Change Schedule and be call a plumber in the middle of the week or even schedule a haircut appointment so what youre going to hear is the Google Assistant its called google duplex actually calling a real salon to schedule an appointment for you lets listen ringback. Im. Fine and im looking for something any. Who or what primary weapon. At pm we do not have the ball on the bell ball about quote that we have to that is the one that. You have everything that we have am and pm depending on what you would like were there to be looking court the woman haircut for now ok we have a current across our head and im ok with corporate need the 1st thing in. Our paper and so i repeatedly but 10 oclock on a very big ok great day great have a great day. That was a real call you just heard is theres no one into this maze that has the code for a machine to pretend that its human and means perhaps not like needs we can only build machines that does and trick us into thinking that something is human in a restricted scenario likes to duplex for example i see to be a good idea to have a law. Requiring that when you get to follow up for example or you. Buy an ai you get alerted to the fact that this is not a human. Otherwise its just going to be a nightmare of phishing scams and so on because suddenly cost nothing you know to waste 10000000 peoples time and trick the most gullible things people into thinking things. We return to San Francisco. And the city and the region around it are home to countless high Tech Startup Companies many of them use Artificial Intelligence technology to develop their products and services and. Eugenia quita arrived here 4 years ago from moscow. She cofounded her own Company Called replica and is now the c. E. O. Replica is best known for creating a chat bot an Artificial Intelligence system that can interact with people. But. The concept began as a tribute to one of her best friends who was killed in a traffic accident. My friend from moscow on. The last year or so we left together here and some cisco. Here. And i was working on mine so it was like. Trying to figure out some cisco and a chapter of our lives. Heres a visionary and she said really. I want. To get a visa and last one together. Was crossing the street.

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