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A mistake one time we shouldnt just leave them. What should countries do about citizens who supported Islamic State and now want to go home we found out we find out why kosovo decided to allow this woman and others like her to return. Time sumi so much kind of thank you for joining us british Prime Minister Boris Johnson has outlined what hes calling his final offer to brussels on the terms of a deal for the u. K. s exit from the European Union johnson was addressing his conservative partys annual conference in the northern english city of manchester one of the biggest stumbling blocks in negotiations with the e. U. Is how to prevent a hard border between Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland and johnson said new proposals on the border would be officially conveyed to brussels later this afternoon and he called them a copy. By the u. K. Today in brussels we are taping what i believe are constructive and reasonable proposals which provide a compromise for both sides we will under no circumstances have checks at or near the border in northern out. Thank you will. We will respect the Peace Process and the good friday agreement. Thanks and and by and by a process of renewable democratic consent by the executive and the assembly of Northern Ireland we will go further and protect the existing regulatory arrangements for farmers and businesses on both sides of the border and at the same time we will allow the u. K. Whole and entire to withdraw from the e. U. With control over our own trade policy from the stuff all right lets bring in our correspondents on the story in burkas mass is standing by for us in manchester and garrick mattis is in brussels welcome to you both david lets start with you we listen to what Boris Johnson just said he didnt offer a lot of detail when it comes to overcoming the problem of the irish border did he say anything more specific other than what we just heard. Well no sumi he was really very light on the detail as you just said and also i think you have to bear in mind that what hes offering on the one hand he says there will be no checks at or near the border and on the other hand he promises that the u. K. Will leave the European Union and the Customs Union completely withdraw completely thats in itself really a contradiction almost he hasnt really told us how exactly hes going to square the circle now were hearing that the socalled final offer is being made to brussels later today sue we will possibly get some more details on this but importantly here and mentions the would the message that he was really trying to bring it across and where he was very much supported by the Party Membership to say that this is really a final offer we are going to walk away if the e. U. Doesnt engage in a way that he johnson deems the correct way with this officer really saying we are going to leave and you just have to basically take this over and. Have to help us find a compromise. Way with no deal and this is where you got the most of the Party Conference when he was asking the audience all be ready for a new deal and everybody shouted yes lets come to you now care of Boris Johnson still seems to be trying to square this impossible circle as we heard that they say theyre keeping the irish border open but also taking the entire u. K. Out of the Customs Union and the Single Market how do you think brussels is likely to react. In brussels officials are clearly aware of the fact that there is a concern on the part of the British Government that in case of a no deal breaks which would be harmful for both sides they dont want to be pictured as the ones who did not reach out the hand and so that is why the word compromise was mentioned a number of times by the british Prime Minister in that speech. The only problem is that officials here in brussels and experts all all of what i have heard from yet concierges actually where that compromise lies because as big it has pointed out. Correctly you cant have both you cant have no checks at the border and while at the same time leaving the Customs Union ive traveled to norway for instance to take a look at a country that is not in the Customs Union about in the internal market something the Prime Minister a 1000000 visits well well have to wait for the details but there is clearly a border to sweden which is an e. U. Member state so there is no example and when the Prime Minister Boris Johnson here says we have to trust into technology or face a hot breakfast that is not an option that process wants to stick through they want to be sure that the future of trade relationship shit can be guaranteed and therefore there is this idea of a transition period and a backstop in case no solution can be found ok what about ireland to guarantee how much of a say will it have and whether to accept any compromise offer from the u. K. Or the unity on the part of the 27 Member States including arland was was very was very strong in the past and it will remain strong thats what ive heard from from Member States so dont expect ireland to be pressed by either germany france or any other of the 27 to accept any deal that would harm that internal border that currently is an open border america coming back to you in manchester is force johnson actually interested in the e. U. Accepting his latest proposals or is he really set on a no deal break that. Well it was interesting i was speaking to some you diplomats here at the conference and asking them how serious alborz johnsons proposal is what do they think about it even though we dont know the details yet but there have been some rumors in circles and there were it wasnt exactly a ringing endorsement it was more ok well we have to live in hope that he really does want to deal but it wasnt very enthusiastic and of course there has been a lot of speculation that hes really rallying the country also behind idea of a deal and that he just wants to shift the blame but it remains to be seen how when we get the final offer the socalled follow void that the details how seriously they will be taken by brussels all right back at mass for us in manchester and care and brussels thank you both. That some other stories making news around the world hundreds of prodemocracy activists have gathered in hong kong to express their anger at the Police Shooting of a Teenager Police fired a live round at the 18 year old on tuesday after he attacked an officer with a metal bar the incident marks a significant escalation of tension since anti china protests started 4 months ago. India is commemorating the 150th anniversary of mahatma gandhis birthday Prime Minister Narendra Modi led the nation in tributes while other religious and political leaders including former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh also paid their respects to the man who became known as the father of the nation. And Hurricane Lorenzo has hit the as always islands in the atlantic with wind speeds reaching 150 Kilometers Per Hour the storm has damaged ports and other buildings schools and some roads have been closed the islands are home 2250000 people 15 people have been reported injured. Is spent exactly one year since the saudi journalist was murdered inside of a saudi consulate in istanbul turkey a u. N. Investigation found what it called credible evidence linking Saudi Crown Prince mohammed bin sama to the killing but a year later none of the masterminds has been brought to justice for the murder and western partners seem to have forgiven saudi arabia. A c. C. T. V. Camera captured the last images of journalist Jamal Khashoggi he was walking into the saudi consulate in east where he would be brutally murdered what happened inside this building shocked the world. Body is believed to have been dismembered and disposed of his remains have never been found. She was an outspoken critic of the saudi leadership since 2017 he had lived in selfimposed exile in the u. S. And was a columnist for the washington post. After he was murdered saudi arabia initially hampered turkish efforts to investigate but eventually riyadh admitted she had died in the concert of the state television spoke of an argument that had more going out with shock she being killed in the suing brawl. But the consulate building had been bugged by turkish intelligence that meant ankara had audiobook orderings of exactly what happened turkey also released c. C. T. V. Footage of 15 saudi government agents arriving in istanbul on the day of the killing and leaving just hours later among them a top advisor to Saudi Crown Prince mohammed bin salmond despite the smiles the crown prince was coming under growing pressure as western allies asked questions in salman denied all involvement in the killing claiming wrote elements instead riyadh put 11 people on trial for the murder but a un inquiry later found what it called credible evidence linking the crown prince to the killing a u. N. Official behind that report told riyadhs claim that it was a rogue operation doesnt hold water if it was conducted and on by state official its used it create light upon state and state Resources Team that came into. A private shed with diplomatic clearance. The murder global condemnation the u. S. And many european nations slap sanctions on some saudi officials but washington was reluctant to take things further than in danger weapons sales to riyadh 450000000000. 00 worth of things ordered from a very rich country saudi arabia. 600000 jobs maybe more of them. Really very hurtful to this country of which were not going to use now one year on from Jamal Khashoggi is death its almost as if Nothing Happened relations between saudi arabia and its western allies have largely normalized. And lets get more on the story with Andrew Gardner hes a Senior Researcher at Amnesty International in turkey and he joins us from istanbul where theres been a commemoration for Jamal Khashoggi today and you thank you for joining us here on d. W. We just heard from the u. N. Investigator agnes column out saying there is clear evidence of a state ordered murder and we have heard the crown Prince Mohammed bin sa months saying he accepts political responsibility even though he said he did not order to skilling so what should happen to him what do you think should happen to him. It was not really news for the crown prince to say has responsibility everyone knows that the solid the right be an authority is the responsible it was 15 of the. Crown princes closest advisers who came on the Saudi Arabian jets who carried out the murder in the Saudi Arabian consulate so this is clear to everyone what isnt clear is the most basic details that are needed for the family and frankly for everyone who searching for justice where their mouth to soltys remains what was the chain of command who ordered the killing did the crown prince ordered the killing himself these things one year later assad blee were no closer to finding things out than we were a year ago and why are we no closer to finding those things out has there been a lack of International Pressure to get those details. Will 1st and foremost the Saudi Arabian authorities have spawn different incredible stories as to the advance of what happened theyve done everything they could do to prevent justice there is. A trial process apparently going on and saudi arabia now that locks the most basic spans of independence due process which is really not getting us any close to justice what needs to happen is for an International Investigation on these of the auspices of the u. N. Secretary general that as you know qualified criminal. Investigate his arrival to speak to all the suspects to go to all the crime scenes to uncover all the evidence and only then will we get answers to these crucial questions however. This Saudi Arabians arties how powerful ally is to value the salbi and authorities diplomatic links with back countries that trade links and sadly be incensed community has been. You know scandalously silent over the past year not as allowed the Saudi Arabian authorities literally to get away with murder who was specifically and you are you expecting more from any International Community you know we saw in our report there the donald trump said saudi arabia is an important trading partner is that the u. S. That needs to be putting more pressure is that europe who is responsible for the fact that justice has not been found in this case. The international. The International Community has a collective responsibility for these shocking events. The United States as the key ally of unite of saudi arabia has the power to force this investigation to happen if it wishes clearly so far it does not wish it to happen to take a start hes have been very vocal in exposing some of the details leaking them to the media they have their own investigation but this is so far not being able to come to occlusion a conclusion on these issues what the take asperity should do but i think they have the responsibility on the moral. Strength the moral responsibility because the murder happened within turkey to write to the u. N. Secretary general and to request that he launches this International Investigation on the his authority i mean Andrew Gardner Senior Researcher at Amnesty International there in turkey thank you very much just. Now European Countries including germany france and britain have been struggling with what to do with their citizens who joined the socalled Islamic State in syria theyre often reluctant to allow former fighters to return because of the threat that they could pose to security but in april kosovo took back 110 of its citizens mainly the wives and children of Islamic State fighters they had been detained in kurdish camps in Northern Syria after the collapse of Islamic States territory so are they being successfully integrated back into civilian society did you spoke to one of the female returning us up until about half a year ago and i was still living with the socalled Islamic State in syria she stayed on till i s lost its last holdout bugaboos in the military strike we need and i had a lake outside because it was capital pristina she lives under house arrest awaiting trial like all are attorneys and is the 1st cause of orator need to speak on camera about her experience we wanted to know what she thought about the beheadings and other reported crimes against humanity committed in the name of the Islamic State but anna avoided our questions and focused instead on her own suffering the airstrikes when they came they just destroyed a house a big building there were children there there were women mothers everything in eyes and tells us she didnt know what she was getting herself into when she followed her husband to syria in 2014 he died in battle she married another fighter his fate remains unclear and i says that being back in kosovo after almost 5 years feels like she has been given a new lease on life she cannot understand why other European Countries like germany are refusing to take their citizens back we are human we have people if someone makes a mistake one time we shouldnt just leave them. The women best are sensitive and its not the childrens fault either so we should help. Help them like our own country kosovo hopes to do in april in an operation assisted by the United States possible brought back 32 women 74 children and 4 male fighters the cause of our approach is unique so far no other european government has undertaken similar steps while the men were sent to prison the authorities are closely monitoring the women and children and giving them counseling they didnt see any resistance from bomb to be part of our programs and maybe this also is the daughter of a that they know well that was because of operatives who took the decision to the pottery in kosovo otherwise they would have remained calm things on the concept is based on the belief that back home under official observation the returnees pose less of a Security Risk than if they remained brought the aim is to reintegrate all of them into society eventually including the men on the streets people are support