Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone 20240713 : vimarsana.com

Transcripts For DW Conflict Zone 20240713

A splash at the coming european elections but whos helping them we are nationalists we are separate so we leave all our members with all one with their own. Vision and principle in respect of what this except you are used comfortable phrases like its a club meant for the exchange of ideas from nationalist populist movements across youre talking strategy yeah thats a bang and its far more combative than that isnt it he called it governing up the e. U. Parliament in other words blocking your purpose is essentially destructive isnt a no its to review not building you know youre breaking the way up we are reinforcing and rebuilding the preeminence of the national what does he say he said the beating heart of the globalist project is in brussels if i drive the stake through the vampire the whole thing will start to dissipate well pretty selfimportant play we arent we if we. We analyze the situation in the sense that the system like the us ultimately ends up imperialism a kind of imperialism i have confidence that the forces of democracy of real democrats in europe will be stronger than these autocrats and i hope they will because indeed there is a rise of populism in europe doesnt look like it doesnt well wait for the results of the 21000 elections and then well talk i know you did better in bavaria and you done a little better in your seat but there but theyre very strong and theyre very powerful and we will see whether they keep getting strengths and i doubt it will see the back seat particularly noticeable i know you said it in 2013 if youre black go back and i want to stony and to be a white country these were your words in. A Television Talk show here. But i mean were roundly condemned by other politicians including the Human Rights Group here in parliament 80 percent of stern and we had a there was a poll in a stone 80 percent of its own and agreed with that statement so take it as it is conveyed to. Them and you would have been you would have won the election you know and win the elections you. Did very well but i want to us about the stakes and this. Is what. He says. We will get to the racism issue what do you want with all this crackdown on migrants you want to preserve your identity and son we want to preserve the italian and european identity we want to why its all nationalist parties across europe do you want to see more White Nationalists are pushing that idea the dented tarion cant its not a matter of White Nationalist parties believe hes not a White Nationalist party lorenzos from time since he saw an identity theory and conception of politics and. All across europe identity means white that thats why i said we are meeting was to protest the european identity the european christina roots for example the european culture ditalia and culture but it is you that is giving to this identity. The iraqis. Aracely the blow up and thats not the the meaning in any way that the league and our representatives are doing so we want to protect the Cultural Roots the christian roots of europe is not hard to work out there were few poland saying muslims equal threat was equal threat over and over again that not only the analog some people are going to react badly and some people are going to turn violent we want to treat the german germination they dont even the European Union but were talking about germany here we dont want to have that a Muslim Country we accept muslims there are lots of muslims who are well integrated into our society who take place no problem everythings fine but what we do not want to accept is that islam is starting to have an impact on our social life and our public life and our you know. Youre not addressing the point i wanted to make about about this idea that was limbs are a threat to germany. Muslims are spread to jews this is for example something what were getting from the Jewish Community the Jewish Community isnt working in the new world lets face it the situation in venezuela could hardly be more complex the United States along with some 2 dozen countries is backing the new interim leader one russia and China Support the incumbent Nicolas Maduro now we have france spain germany and britain who have recognized the new interim leader as president how long can you go on with this people are defecting from the Administration One of your colleagues and as well ambassador to iraq the fact it accusing member of violating the constitution is his right and therefore general near force. Military attack show in washington you know military fashion washington is gone how long can you hold the view doesnt depend on that i mean a president doesnt hold or doesnt hold on because of Foreign Countries ask them or like them or not hes impoverished the country and hes subject to the massive repression well i think the aim here is to have the transition that is taking place continue to take place peacefully we met with the. We met with. One guy goes representative the new ambassador to the United States and one boy go is the president of venezuela at the present time we believe strongly that the warning to you we believe strongly that the. That the venezuelan people should be commended for the way that theyve handled this they used the rule of law to rep to remove. Mr maduro hes still going hes still venice and that could you would you mind letting me finish my sentence as plain as the International Community is going to want wide of recognition he said i mean i got it from inside the country that you know he absolutely does have it from inside the country said people on the streets thats not the same thing isnt what it what do you expect that people on the streets as power people on the streets its love. People on the streets is support people on the streets as an expression i mean come come and hope and the other end of hell and her life her future and it can come and go well the people that are supporting. The material are the rogues gallery in the world including the iranians. The the russians the north koreans pull frosty in an occasion is it worse is the sense that you dont think this is a stalemated situation its not now all the countries that are liberal democracies that have the rule of law recognize our constitution and they recognize the legitimacy of one why they are that we are in a situation where a drug cartel has taken all the levers of power by the way doesnt mean youre going to succeed does it doesnt mean youre going to see where you are trying we have no option but to fight for our people i will fight for my people until i draw my last breath how long do you think president maduro can hold on now 6 years i hope. Weeks of mass protest in hong kong show no sign of coming to an end but homeowner will beijing put up with you more than a few weeks ago a few days ago that if things got worse the chinese army might consider taking to the streets you said when theres trouble in hong kong when things turn so theres violence in our history our fear is that if the police are now able to control what is happening here theres a remote risk the chinese army would get involved how remote is that risk if it so a lot of the why why did you why did you mention no i hope you will never happen why did you mention if it was a remote risk trying to frighten people you know its a fact everybody understand except you you dont understand it. Hong kong is a place where it has been operating is operating under the one country 2 systems it is a not very successfully is it calm its a huge political compromise we are part of china under the basic law china has a responsibility to ensure that hong kong is stable everybody who is doing business here want to see hong kong to be stable all right so yes under the basic law there is provision for the the beijing government to interfere if nobody hoped that it would happen im trying to say that we are trying to of avoid this happening so im not instilling fear into people im simply reflecting what is stated in the basic law and what is the political reality of the situation of course we created size the Hong Kong Government especially the council tried to establish a law which your hong kong residents disagree and that doesnt trust so that the show you the latest carries out your that are you the chief executive you blame the carrier kerry land the chief exec shes beijings appointee russian history shes the appointee even socalled elected by some hong kong representation still there y. C. Why hasnt she was more ask hong kong people as from people is there democracy in syria system we need we in hong kong need to gain the trust and confidence of beijing so that they can allow us the freedom of political reform what about the other way round what about beijings duty to earn the trust of people in hong kong once both ways where they have managed you know the suspect has and runs both ways only 2 years they have managed its only about time fairly but theyve been doing of the most of try to win you know holes all show that people do not of the majority of people still do not identify something i dont think is all that beijing a matter of National Guard would have to work on them. Everybody would go to work harder you think the people of hong kong should play nice to their masters in beijing i might throw that out of a crumbs i do use only to use over the words the words i use is that we should communicate with each other and wish to instill confidence in each other thats what im saying while china is not using force to press down the demonstration why they compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove they can change. This week convict zone is that the annual security conference in munich i mean plenty of recriminations and bad blood between europe and washington are you trying to tell me that europe has lived up to its commitments under nato is that what youre trying to tell me because believe me there is no belief for that on anybodys part that some of the european nations are not living up to their commitments and indeed look ive done this for 10 years ive come over here and tried to talk to nato countries into living up to their agreements they patted us on the head and said all well were on track to try to do this or try to do that let me put it bluntly the problem is that many Member States dont trust donald trump do that his commitment to nato and why should that i mean hes done everything he could to undermine trust that hes 100 percent behind you know i havent seen that clearly donald trump has shaken things up theres no question about it hes gotten also a bit moved to his cartmel the allies to sit up and take notice because he was very concerned about the lack of of their burden sharing inside the alliance and he wanted allies to pay more in his inimitable way he got everybody to Pay Attention to the necessity of putting more money into their Defense Budgets chancellor Angela Merkel said last year that there were good reasons to continue fighting for the transatlantic relationship but we have she added we cant count on it anymore. Well im im sorry she feels like that we dont feel like that you know for the house of representatives they had so little confidence in chumps intentions toward nato that last year they had to pass a law with bipartisan support stating that is u. S. Policy to remain a member of nato predicating funs to be used to withdraw from the alliance so little confidence do they have in the president s commitment to nato her a i saw that as a great expression in washington of bipartisan support for nato and i saw it when we were there 10 days ago for the 70th anniversary nato is well supported across both sides of the aisle thats a great thing why why are you going off isaac and not by the president there are 200. 00 countries in the world right the vast majority of them believe that Barack Obamas brand of leadership was far better than either george bush is or down from you see the curve go like this under obama and then like this under trump and europe and asia and latin america and africa and so we can talk about israel where president obama had very sharp differences with a right wing government led by Bibi Netanyahu but i dont think that it wasnt just it wasnt just the sharp differences there were deep contradictions in the middle east policy that well we i mean you have hope and we think that you voted against them u. S. President to anchor in israel this was rooted largely in the Iran Nuclear Agreement and if we had to do it over again if the price of having a better relationship with israel was not having Iran Nuclear Agreement and potentially going to war with iran that was not a price that we were going to pay all the latest polls show the french germans the british now regard the us as a greater danger to their interests than china would you regard as your prime danger how much blame do you think washington should take for that. Well. Sometimes events drive us in a direction that we shouldnt be driven. We. We dont feel the same way about our european. Friends or were more like kerry you know there are a lot of recriminations these days to get over iran. In regard to the round deal that europe continues to abide by surely one that you get out of well we didnt walk out of it the president states at that time. Entered into that agreement. Over the objection of a lot of us it did not have the things in it that it needed to have and it was very weak it did indeed address one issue but i viewed the iran. Deal as a deal to try to discipline the bad boy in the classroom that was doing 5 bad things they addressed one of them but their interest at a big one didnt they dressed one of them a big one they have dressed one of them ben rhodes in the short time that we have left lets look ahead to the next president ial election next year. What kind of Democratic Party do you think is going to be capable of beating donald trump with his massive following his dominance of the airways is dominance of social media which proved so devastating in the last president ial election what kind of democratic vote is going to be able to i think counteract the current. The massive following is 40 percent he is the most unpopular us president to run for reelection in my life he sets the news agenda there is a very well then doesnt they dominate is that it takes a look at what has got to live with the world as it is or the Democratic Party just routed down from Republican Party exit from the scene we won 40 seats in the house yeah and won by the largest popular vote margin in the history of a Midterm Election the largest Democratic Victory in the house since watergate. Voters in the European Parliament elections have shaken out the continents politics turning away from the major power. Lobster the dominated brussels in recent years and boosting the smaller groupings the greens the liberals and the far right apparently european voters werent so keen on the status quo in the more do you accept the share of the blame for the for the 1st Voter Participation has been very very high historically 51 percent more or less in medium in and out of europe but they dont like the status quo like a mt to say that but this is your general crossing legitimacy to european institutions shows that people start to understand how relevant to European Union is and that it really affects their daily life and they future their one mark and ability they want more transparency i think they will. Ask much more participation for whatever is going on around europe in the future thats a nice way of spinning it isnt that the top jobs were carved up in a kind of backroom stitch up that people were told wasnt going to happen again and it did it did despite all these promises why you let the voters than not i mean 1st of all why do you speak about the backroom deal i mean it was so transparent. And all the process of the names in the game i think it was very very true not at all into the Outgoing Commission president he called it not very transparent quite an indictment from john burns that wasnt its true but i dont have to agree with him on this point i think its not the best process but its the process that this is right in the treaties people are losing faith in the heres the paradox isnt that the highest level of support for membership since 1903 but more than half the people of europe think he was likely to collapse within a generation all the while for the 1st breath this is also the legacy of on our societies out of the chaos and implosion that unfortunately we have seen in the u. K. Has been a vaccination rather than infection for the rest of europe we have seen so you should be stronger so as a result of that we have seen if i can finish my sentence to your a barometer country after country youre planning and popularity has increased even in hungary with a few exception of Czech Republic and we have seen one after the extreme right Political Parties dropping the agenda of leaving the European Union and leaving the euro why all the doubts about whether the e. U. Can actually Stay Together i mean spains foreign minister yours a was asked the interview if it was so fragile if europe was so fragile it could break up his comment was honestly yes honestly yes yes or europe has always been growing start out of big crisis we were born out of the ashes of world war 2. And there we al it is that is one of the best places in the world to live we never had it so good in europe but voters are the they are very disappointed very disappointed and it was supposed to be about them you were seeing the turnout go down in every single elect

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