Transcripts For DW The Day 20240713 : vimarsana.com

Transcripts For DW The Day 20240713

Sometimes you have to know your voice is being heard to make you think why is it nothing will happen this turns i will not allow anyone to threaten or intimidate you. We dont leave a quarter of what he says and. Also coming up in syria the americans are leaving the russians arent going anywhere what about the germans tonight a plan from the woman who could become germanys next chancellor. One question is this i and my recommendation is that we have stablish an internationally can truly security zone in cooperation with turkey and russia. But to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day after a weekend of rage in chile at least 11 people were killed 1500 arrested in violent protests that have shaken the south American Country 10000 troops are now patrolling the streets and today chilean president Sebastian Pinera extended a state of emergency beyond the capital santiago the unrest is the worst that chile has seen since the end of the pinochet dictatorship some 3 decades ago and it began just last week when the government announced a 3 percent hike in the price of metro tickets angry protesters torched at least a dozen metro stations as a result and that ticket price increase it has now been scrapped but demonstrators say it does not address social injustice and inequality in the country they claim the governments economic policies have widened the gap between rich and poor and they claim that the president is out of touch just last week president pinera described his country as in a way says among south americas troubled economies on sunday night he called the protesters delinquent and he declared the country is now at war with evil we have this report. Another day of protests in chile. Thousands have taken to the streets once again in santiago and felt hurry so im going to have the military used tear gas and water cannon to disperse the crowds of demonstrators president Sebastian Pinera sent in the troops to maintain order after a weekend of chaos in several cities. There were deaths amid violent clashes arson attacks and looting. The cause was a planned hike in public transport fares angry rioters set this garment factory on fire on sunday 5 people died here the president declared a state of emergency. We are at war with a powerful relentless enemy that that respects nothing or anyone and is willing to use violence and crime without any limits. Even when it involves the loss of human lives and many residents of santiago tried to get back to normal life the citys metro reopened. As did a small number of supermarkets where people waited in long lines to be let in. Motorists also faced long waits to fill up. Im going to see you again thank you its been a quiet morning compared to the previous days at least after everything i hear during the night it looks calm now i imagine it will be worse to be honest. But total calm seems a long way off with the protests showing no signs of letting up. And for more on chiles protests and anger im joined tonight by a crystal ball review called fossa hes a Political Science professor at the Diego Portales university in chiles capital santiago professor its good to have you on the program tonight let me ask you as a citizen of chile are you surprised to see whats happening. Yes and no to be honest im surprised in the sense that nobody expects that these is going to turn so fast in that way but theyre not surprised because those who have been doing Research Like myself and many colleagues we do know that the levels of inequality and anger of the lation are extremely high and this is the main cause of the problem is that we are seeing nobodies and so you say that academics is just yourself people on the street they know that this gap between the rich and the poor has gotten bigger and yet just last week the president of chile said that your country is an oasis among south americas problematic economies is he really that alba touch with reality well i think that Important Role mr president but the government in general but also the leading more in more general sense i mean there are many many people in this country who are very rich who are not really understanding there are many people on the streets normal cd sense try to link to 2 to come till the end of the month because the summer resort not good enough so to say and because all those who are completely out of touch are saying certain things and generate more and more attention and this is i would say one thing the main problems that were seeing nowadays and these probably one of the reasons why the protestant are scaling up so to say what did you make last night of the president s speech where he said he basically blamed the protests on students calling them young delinquents and he said that the country is at war with evil thats not thats not a positive constructive language coming from your leader is. Exactly anything this is part of the problem we have a government at the moment and es not doing what we should expect instant instead of saying that he understand the cause of the problem and he understands that this regime is not the easy one but he wants to stop the style of hes doing inside the opposite hes saying that we need more repression of course a reason big problem because of the riots the disease is not going to solve the main problem of the country and instead hes using these very provocative and polarizing language and you have to wonder as an outsider professor looking at chile this government is democratically elected this is what the voters wanted and yet the president seems to be terribly out of touch with what the common voter experiences every week at the Grocery Store for example so you know whose fault is it that this disconnect exists is it really the elites fault or is it you know the people the voters fault for putting these people in power. Well i think to be fair we depress it and this is a longstanding problem of this country destroying didnt start 4 years ago to do we can only runs in this country needs to insurgents and related to the pinochet dictatorship and the nearly reforms that were implemented 30 years ago but going back to our current president we need to understand that in turn of letting elections extreme do you know approximately 50 percent of the nation going to the polls which means that the Group President was supported wholly by 25 percent of the nation so its and democratic elected either not 50 percent of the mission voted for him only 25 percent and he doesnt have a Majority Congress and this is again part of the problem of what were seeing today yeah thats like a situation you have in a country known as the United States i think if you want to make that comparison the government to niners. Sense yeah yeah i mean there are similarities there and i want to ask you about what the government is saying tonight weve got a report that the government in chile says that the unrest that we have seen will undoubtedly impact the countrys economy do you agree with that. Well the economy of the country and this is one of the paradox if you compared the economy of chile with the rest of latin america its in a relatively good shape i mean Economic Growth should be around 3 Percent Inflation is under control and employment its not very high but of course if the currency to asian think such surveys and Political Group the station continues and repression grows of course were going to have a very very difficult situation we need that i would agree theres now when they stop using polarizing language and try to speak a language that connects we did the amounts of the people again we know that reforms are not going to be easy easy to be made but we need another type of language and this is not nobodys you know that good advice that i think applies to a lot of countries around the world at the moment professor crystal ball revealed a culture vasa joining us tonight from santiago professor we appreciate your time and your insight thank you. Thank you very much. From south america to the middle east in lebanon people are protesting as well demanding an end to corruption and social inequality today Prime Minister hariri announced that Economic Reforms are on the way including massive cuts in politician salaries but that did not send the demonstrators in beirut home some are calling for a revolution and what all started when the government announced attacks on whats app voice calls that tax has since been scrapped the anger in the public it remains. Was these ministers and legislators should be thrown in jail this thieves they were begging for money from other countries on behalf of the lebanese but that then put the money in their own pockets at the moment this government has done nothing but divide us as well as making us citizens must retain their dignity this is why we wont leave the streets without taking down the regime and forming a Transitional Government with exceptional powers to rebuild the country. And had art for more now we want to take the story to beirut im joined by a correspondent there bustle a reading also its good to see you let me ask you are you surprised at how quickly the Prime Minister has said he will meet the demands of the protesters. No in fact i told it was obvious since its because of these huge crowds that took to the streets the last 5 days mainly yesterday the old major cities in lebanon lost the downtown offered with the 2 main squares in built on both the mark and the squares which is in front of the the president ial headquarters sort of the Prime Minister had sort of some old coats old beastliness natures that to the seats. In these days it was obvious that the government will do will meet the protesters demands obvious. Since the 1st trysts 1st 24 hours of these demonstrators old ministers mainly the minister of. Telecom announced that hes going to pull back the old beast back that was that that was on the front discussion and nothing was for sure according to the minister of telecom so it was obvious that the government wed go we proceed would be tossed packages let me ask you then if if you know if it was so obvious that these demands will be met why are the protests continuing because we havent really seen many people leaving and going home. Not until the deed to the. Clothes was full of crowded of crowds sunday and thats one thing according to the demonstrates of a conduct to the old these people on the streets in tripoli and north of lebanon to the south of lebanon old these cities with a skinflint want think it is the nation of the government they say lead us to the speech of the Prime Minister saad they said that they dont trust these authorities anymore they want full of promises and they want any more of these promises i mean we know the civil war ended in 1990 weve had almost 30 years but many segments of the lebanese economy they still remain you know in horrible condition in does this government i mean doesnt it does it have any it is a safe to say that he has no credibility left with the public. Accordant the public. Like he had no knowledge currency in my bag on the central bank of lebanon the Banking Sector according to the packages announced. That they want to take one of these phones. By the point 2000000000. 00 i dont think 1000000000. 00 made it through. Like as an aid to the economy most of these money all of these. Buckets from the beat Banking Sector we go through the electricity off lebanon at the. Major problem and lebanon since 30 years until now the population was called on the private sector would private generators do to balance between the. 2 gained some electricity it wasnt me as before we run out of time you know we have talked in many many times about lebanon being a country where the politicians have used sectarian differences sic tarion violence to maintain power but with these protests were not talking about sectarian violence i mean were talking about she attacking shia for example this is this is across the board protest thats different for the country isnt it. For the 1st time according to all of the local newspapers the 1st time since the independence in 1950 its the 1st time that lebanon witnessed such huge protesters and. Action in the streets of lebanon old the doubts all over the cities in lebanon in one voice they hold open that political. Division that is so the. United. In one voice they need they want diggnation of the government and to change and to take down the all new jeep the city which is based on stick to shoots it will be very very interesting to see how this is moving forward that is for sure correspondent bussell a reading joining us from beirut thank you very much thank you. What kind of future will Northern Syria have the United States has departed the russians plan to stay what about the kurds and what about the Turkish Military well there is a new proposal from germany to not germanys defense minister is calling for an internationally patrolled security zone in syria along the border with turkey that is also war whats turkey wants but there is a big difference sturman these plan puts the zone under International Control not under the direction of turkey. My recommendation is that we stand up lucian internationally controlled security zone in cooperation with turkey and russia. And this security zone would seek to resume the fight against terror and against isis which has currently come to a standstill it would also ensure that we stabilize the region so that rebuilding civilian life is once again possible. And so that those who have fled can also return voluntarily. I want to bring in the w. S. J. Political editor there she conducted that interview with the German Defense minister mykola what exactly is a k k what is she hoping to achieve with this proposal well she wants to change the debate she wants to bring the European Union out of the defensive from the sidelines as she herself says just watching what turkish president and Vladimir Putin of russia potentially will map out when they meet on tuesday because that one said he would decide what to do after that well now theres a new factor here potentially and i think i stress potentially a european proposal on the table saying yes were looking internationally administered a safe zone the could possibly have troops or forces from the European Union and russia how realistic is that well nobody talks about Russian Forces theres coordination they want to bring on. Wants to bring on board russian turkey whatever that means in the end and when youre talking about e. U. Forces theres no such thing as a European Union i mean this is a very long debate. And i did try and press the German Defense minister whether that could potentially mean german boots on the ground German Military commitment lets just listen to what. He said the fog of the question how germany handles this politically and more than anything what this could mean for our armed forces is a question that must be decided by the bundestag was so thats the standard out so that from to politicians its a Parliamentary Army everything has to be it has to go through the board to talk but she did cite the example of iraq where dummy does reconnaissance flights and training so that sounds a lot more soft touch than what she said 1st i mean. Still the question does it mean should the german army join in this operation well this is the question she successfully ducked by saying that she acts upon the request of the German Parliament this is something that has hampered germany in also in nato but in all kinds of alliances so quite clearly this is somebody who wants to kick start a debate also here and many i think theres a very large proportion of playing this to a domestic oil despite being a very international question we can also listen to islam but that we have on that. As this is just a mother this is 1st of all a proposal my making as party leader and as defense minister i know its a proposal that is supported by many defense and Foreign Policy experts in my party. Before going public with this recommendation i informed the chancellor and this will definitely be discussed within the government but we cant simply talk about europe needing to be more than a bystander we must come up with our own proposals to catalyze discussion. And. So this announcement was made not by the chancellor but by germanys defense minister should we read anything out of there absolutely are all this is the woman who wants to succeed Angela Merkel as the next time i think this is yet another sign that we are much closer to a potential collapse of the socalled grand coalition with the social democrats because i dont see any chance of the social democrats going for this proposal this would mean potentially more engagement she has trouble getting through that 2 percent spending go for nato in the 1st place so clearly this is her set stepping out of the shadow of trying to her popularity numbers are not that good to hear is that another reason why shes being so present with this proposal she said she doesnt have a lot to lose currently her popularity is pretty low also shes being attacked from within her own party appealing to the party not to do the kind of infighting thats destroying the social democrats has not succeeded so far so this in the attempt to lay down the law to show that she can play tough and that she can do german chancellor right now as always thank you. In hong kong there were more pro democracy rallies over the weekend some of them were violent for months now and unlikely figure has put himself in harms way squarely between police and the activist the charlotte shells until introduces

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