Well people have been stopping by they could say Minute Church to watch a series of projections that are being projected on to the church behind me these tell the story of the week leading up to the fall of the berlin wall and that is why people are coming here because this church played a huge role in the peaceful revolution in the path toward that peaceful revolution people at this church would come and meet Opposition Forces which are i should say. Oppositionists came here to meet and 30 years ago to the evening there was a concert here of beethovens 3rd symphony where the conductor stood up after the symphony and said the wall has got to go and that is when people took to the streets in an impromptu demonstration now 30 years later tonight theres a concert by the hunk rock joy and patti smith whos come here from the United States a person whos built her career on fighting for freedom and she is giving a concert here to commemorate that concert that happened 30 years ago so tell us just a little bit more about the significance of the church itself through. Well it wasnt just that one concert actually in the weeks and months that led up to that concert more and more people gathered in the area right behind me for candlelight vigils to to. Make aware what was going on that people were being arrested for demonstrating for democracy and this church really played a role in creating a groundswell of support for the Freedom Movement that led to the fall of the berlin wall so lets take a look at back at what happened 30 years ago. In october 989 think if sam in a church in what was then east berlin became the center of the revolution communist east germany was celebrating its 40th anniversary and there was still rousing applause for the countrys leaders but at the same time the streets were slowly filling up with protestors. On the. East German Police and members of the countrys notorious Intelligence Service brutally beat the demonstrators. On this night thousands some of them wounded fled into the safety of the church there were fears that the church would be storm. But the police didnt intervene a new wind was blowing from the east under Mikhail Gorbachev moscow was no longer willing to back the use of force against demonstrators the protest Movement Based in the guest them in the church was allowed to continue with candles courage and nonviolent protests these demonstrators paved the way for the peaceful revolution and the fall of the wall. So david its very interesting that churches were something of a protected space in the former east germany tell us a little bit more about their contribution in general to the peaceful revolution. Right well churches were one of the very few places the opposite oppositionists could meet in east germany and talk about politics talk about any kinds of issues from the environment to gay rights and this church in particular was one of them i talked a little bit earlier to the pastor of this church bonnie and he told me that he believes that the church played a huge role in keeping the revolution peaceful because people would meet in the churches and then they would go out on the streets but 1st they would pray for peace and that played a major role now churches of course had in and of themselves sort of in sort of an opposition to the state the east german state was officially atheists and that automatically created an opposition in which there was. In which. And which a lot of people felt that they could gather into that couldnt speak freely elsewhere lets have a listen to what the minister said earlier yes. He said i myself wasnt afraid. That this was a movement that the state apparatus was not going to quell. We had no guarantee of safety. Actually it wasnt a public space and they would have needed a search warrant just going and despite the totalitarian nature of the east german system there were certain aspects of the rule of law that they respected that gave us a bit of security and so now you can visit and see how it. So david obviously think that really struck me one thing go ahead go ahead what struck you. Well one thing that really struck me in talking to bonnie is how even just days before the wall fall people werent sure what was going to happen they could really feel that something historic was happening that there was a shift taking place but no one knew that just 4 days after that concert that took place here in the church that it was that so what was going to come down and everything was going to change it was such an incredibly emotional event for so many millions of people here in germany have you spoken to anyone there just quickly hes spoken to anyone there about how they experienced it. We havent actually we can have a listen to what they have to say. I experienced the fall of the war by going to east berlin id been expelled from germany just a year before so i used the opportunity to visit my friends and parents. I came here today with a friend who grew up just 100 meters away from me as the crow flies. We both lived right at the border. She was in the west and i was in the east and we probably would never have met if it hadnt been for the peaceful revolution. Thanks very much david for bringing us all that background and well catch up with you again tomorrow when youll be at the east side gallery i believe the longest remaining stretch of the berlin wall thanks very much for talking to us this evening. Well your money is a german singer songwriter and former east german dissident who was stripped of his citizenship and exiled to extra west germany back in 1976 that was after his very nonconformist alarms the east German Authorities on monday night pm and performed in berlin with the chinese poet and musician. And the 2 commemorated both the massacre at Tiananmen Square also in 1909 and of course the fall of the berlin wall. 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In his songs be a man performing here with his wife camilla took the east german communist regime to task on sees reunification and its consequences in a positive light he has no time for people who suggest that the former east germany was colonized. Mrs freedom does not kiss missed the barbed wire why you cant break 2 systems dictatorship and democracy together in such a way that you say it will take the better from both after all it wasnt bad in the day are i believe that the weakest and most imperfect democracy is in compare a pretty better than the best. Chinese author leo you seen here on the left is a friend of both be a months and 2011 he was able to flee to germany after a long prison sentence in china hes updated his poem massacre about the brutal suppression of the Chinese Democracy Movement in 1909 to pay tribute to the Current Protest Movement in hong kong. The curtain down we want to die in freedom. Over the past 30 years and china has become a dictator. Ship that represents strong competition from the west on my mind of the people of hong kong the courage and perseverance and determination to fight against dictatorship it could be the beginning of a cold war i cannot say enough that i am a citizen of hong kong things now depend on the west he says hes calling on chancellor Angela Merkel and germany to put principle before economic interest when it comes to freedom and democracy. Turns the Chinese Communist party has developed into an incredibly powerful empire they have perfected the dictatorship more than the soviets they used an opium against their own people as in hong kong against those who dare to resist opium against Foreign Countries against their economies and politics with 1st they make them dependent make the middle dictate and then they can no longer resist this opium this alliance of interests with china so i dont hear the people in hong kong have clearly already taken the message of the. 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