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DW The Day July 13, 2024

1 country can limit is. So you can see how little room right we have to work on it. Also coming up tonight a special report from war torn yemen where soldiers and civilians now fear a fever just as much as they fear their phone. Officially theres only one case of covert 19 in name and in reality there may be many more thats bad news for this troubled country. But to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with a meeting of g 7 leaders and the very different accounts of what was said today the u. S. Hosted a Video Conference of leaders from the g. 7 group of industrialized nations later in a statement the white house announced that the g 7 is calling for a review and reform of the World Health Organization and here is part of that statement g 7 nations contribute more than a 1000000000. 00 annually to the World Health Organization much of the conversation centered on a lack of transparency and chronic mismanagement of the pandemic by the w. H. O. The statement goes on with leaders called for a thorough review and reform process of the organization as you see it right there. That does not confirm what other g 7 members are reporting the German Chancellors Office saying that until americal defended the w. H. O. In todays call the European Union also issued a statement with no mention of the World Health Organization for right are we dealing with some spin here talk about that in a lot more im joined tonight by ian bremmer hes president of the global Risk Assessment group eurasia and g. s iraq media he joins me from new york city it is good to have you back on the the day to be as important i guess to remind our viewers that donald trump has accused the w. H. O. This week of failing to warn the world in time about the hand demick hes been accused of scapegoating the w. H. O. Trying to deflect blame that he waited too long to prepare for the outbreak is this statement Trump White House spin. Theres a lot of spin going on and there lets be clear theres a lot theres more than enough blame to go around for all all of these organizations the World Health Organization is not perfect it was carrying water for china in the early days when when the Chinese Government was covering up the human to human transmission the World Health Organization was passing along chinese data. In an uncritical fashion and they know better but its hard for them because china is also a major donor to the w. H. O. Of course the trumpet ministration has had more than its share of mistakes in the way theyve handled this i mean everyone got the same information from china at the same time right but the south korean and german responses to the pandemic or a lot more effective than the american response you want how come trumps going to blame obama or hes going to blame the governors or the mayors but hes not going to blame themselves and lets also keep in mind this is an election period and trump has been playing a lot of defense in the last few years in terms of hearings in washington 1st that mower and just a geisha and then of course the impeachment proceedings the next few months is going to play off and were going to see hearings against both china and hearings against the World Health Organization on the help in washington and both of those are much more useful for a President Trump the trying to flex any blame away from himself i want to pick up on germany for a moment the economy here in germany will begin reopening next monday im i want you to take a listen to how the chancellor has explained her thinking to the public take a look. Well the curve has become flatter it must not overload our Health System and we have looked a calculation showing we are currently at a transmission rate of one meaning one person infects one other person thats an average and is true for only one infection chain but its approximately one infecting one other person. In the if we get to the point that where every person infects 1 point one others then by october our Health Care System or reach capacity with the assumed number of intensive care beds if we get to 1. 2 people so everyone is infecting trying to percent more meaning out of 5 people wanting facts to others and 4 people in fact one other person then we will reach the limit of our Health Care System in july. Feel and if it gets to 1. 3 people then we will reach the limits of our Health Care System in june. So you can see how little room we have to work with you. When you hear that does it strike you have different the german chancellor communicate with her publicly compared to the way the u. S. President communicates with his public. You mean you mean to say that you dont think that those are identical slightly different. But there is a big difference right they are think you are very different but it is important to recognize that even though President Trump free wheels with facts exaggerates all the time doesnt really have a lot of empathy and certainly isnt oriented toward science hes also not the person thats calling the shots not reopening the economy or closing at the person place thats the governors in the United States and i would argue that if you listen to some of the governors in the United States like new york or ohio or california or Washington State that upon a very effective job in responding to this crisis they sound a lot more like the german chancellor but i also think that people like dr fouchier and dr who are so open up there on this on the stage before and more importantly have been out there talking to the media and theyre certainly not muzzled by the american president like i would say the average american is even though theyre dealing with the craziness of the president directly who are also ultimately getting pretty decent and balanced information about this pandemic in a way that say they werent about the impeachment and they werent about russian intervention in the u. S. Election cycle science is actually getting through here look at science through things to the women i want to talk about the ladies for a moment here weve got the german chancellor Angela Merkel weve got new zealands Prime Minister weve got the president of taiwan these are all women loners who are being praised for how theyve handled this pandemic do you think that it matters that that theyre Women Leaders is that making the difference. I think it would be better if you had more diversity i think its a problem that politics is run by a lot of older white men who tend to be all ready to become president it usually requires a strong level of narcissism a strong level of im in charge im number one so i mean youre already bringing in personality traits that make it hard to listen to a broader constellation of experts and in dealing with this crisis experts he says what you really need so i mean i dont think its necessarily just because theyre women but i do think that there are a bunch of personality traits that we dont usually find among people that run countries. Some of the women that have managed to make it to that so that level have been more effective than a lot of the guys were saying you know thats a good way to put it lets talk about you know i said that because i mean i dont think that i would be out there banging on on how wonderful i am if i was president but i have no interest in being president s and this part of the problem thats part of the problem exactly what about the United States what happens today weve learned today that 22000000. 00 jobs theyve been lost in just the last month and the funding for Small Business loans funding is one alex are you bracing for another Great Depression. No but this recession is deeper and will be longer than anything weve had since the Great Depression and youve seen what marco was discussing in germany i mean when you reopen this economy youre going to start with bakeries and bike shops and then you move that Larger Stores and malls and eventually into restaurants and who knows when you get things like sporting facilities right at movie theaters this is going to take a very long time you close the economy with a sledgehammer you open it with a scalpel and if you start it because theres not much room as merkel said with the Health Care System youre going to be very careful and thats not a waltz tango youll take a couple steps one direction youll have to come back even in china where they have vastly more surveillance and near 100 percent compliance with their directives they open the movie theaters they shut them down now they open tourist facilities they shut them down right so i mean given that and the lack of political coordination inside countries across the world this is going to take a very long time so i mean i think we can get our hands around the human the direct human cost of the virus and its very painful but we can deal with it we can get through it i think the Economic Cost is something that we havent yet really understood just how much damage when you take 10 percent of the working population out of the economy in advanced industrial countries and you cant bring them back you cant give them something productive to do for years how do you pay for that what does that do to your society what does it do to your politics what it do to the values that you hold as a country i dont think were close to answering those questions weve been seeing images today of people in the United States protesting for an end to these stay at home orders at the same time when theyre testing for the virus is nowhere near the levels that it should be do you understand why arent people protesting and demanding more testing. Well testing is getting there i mean right now american tests per 1000000 of population is about where youre is on average better than france in the u. K. Its not as good as germany thats been a significant surge that the americans have done in the last 9 few weeks including tests that are actually can be done very quickly a lot of innovation from Abbott Laboratories and others that have come on that front and because the americans are one and have 2 weeks behind the europeans in terms of caseload and where we are in the curve on the pandemic that actually implies that in the weeks and a half the time the americans will probably be in a better position on testing than europe is so i dont think that thats the demand the americans need to make what they need to make our demands on mass we need and 95 masks we need every every person in america not Just Health Care workers the ability to ensure that youre not infecting other people and theyre not infecting you and if you dont have enough masks for the Health Care Workers you cant tell the average american go and buy those masks because you create a panic you create a run on them but were in so we have them its going to be very hard to get people back to the work place ive actually focused on the mass. I want to ask you this could be on the master list talk about what were hearing from china but there are more reports about the origin of the corona virus that may be the result of a Lab Experiment vets went wrong in one china for example i mean we wont know until we find the viral reservoir or patient 0 in the pandemic so with that in mind what do you think would be the best way forward suddenly these suspicions and conspiracy theories out there should be china be forced to pay in some way for this pandemic. Force to pay i mean right now. If the americans told the chinese they need to pay the chinese would tell the americans to go scratch i mean you do understand that get into even a limited phase one trade deal but quite an awful lot of back and forth between the 2 countries and the cooperation level was limited i think much more importantly is that this this relationship which has no trust chinese do not trust the americans at all the americans do not trust the chinese at all that was true under obama true its true under triumph but at least there was a lot of interdependence we needed each other and because we need each other we didnt want conflict within one confrontation were very concerned about that well now we already see that in the Technology Area ai the cloud 5 g. American Tech Companies cant invest in china like amazon and google Chinese Companies cant invest in the u. S. And will tell our allies like germany you get to work with huawei right and youre seeing manufacturing youre seeing a services the just in time supply chain got disrupted a lot of companies are going to start pulling that back away from china closer to the customers especially when they get bailouts and the america 1st policy is if were giving you taxpayer money you better hire americans. And then were blaming the chinese the chinese are blaming us or its going to amaze terse how as many chinese come to american universities in other words what were doing is we were significantly reducing the interdependence between the United States and china and that means the likelihood of confrontation between the 2 largest economies in the world is going up a lot and i think we should all be very concerned about that especially on the back of a pandemic which is already causing more than its share of volatility uncertainty risk in the Global Economy just exactly the great decoupling and the pandemic of the same time in burma its always good to talk with the appreciate your insights thank you it. To bring about a truce in the war in yemen last week saudi arabia declared a 2 week unilateral ceasefire in yemen citing fears that the virus might spread in the country and for the past 5 years. The country has been devastated leaving people dependent on wards which have been repeatedly blocked by a humanitarian disaster no match against the. Lining up to test for the coronavirus anyone who has a fever has to stand outside a checkpoint outside of sanaa its to protect the metropolis of millions from an outbreak. Transfer people who are suspected to have coronavirus to the hospital or various hotels suitable for quarantine. Officially theres only one case of covert 19 in yemen in reality there may be many more thats bad news for this troubled country 5 years of war between the saudi military coalition and the hoody rebels have devastated the countrys infrastructure. Almost 50 percent of all hospitals have been destroyed saudi arabia has declared a cease fire but its a fragile one people dont have enough food water electricity medicine many people are suffering hardship and hunger washing their hands is almost impossible. This sajjad hospital is still operating. It is one of 2 with intensive care beds for coronavirus patients there are only 6 respirators here there are 12 in total in the whole capital. Is large and located in a sparsely populated area thats why it was chosen to fight the disease to start nothing more the un has warned that the delivery of urgently needed aid is considerably more difficult because of the sea and air blockade of saudi arabia and supplies which the United Nations are trying to bring into the country lifesaving supplies i. C. U. Supplies the medicines that are needed its been difficult to do because of the blockade. Cholera and diphtheria waves have weakened millions of people in recent years this makes becoming seriously ill with coated 19 even more likely deficiencies also in pharmacies masks and disinfectants are not available or only at extortionate prices will come on of not i cant find the mass wherever i look there are not 1st they cost 20. 00 variables now its a 1000. Shortage and need are already in normal state of affairs in yemen a coronavirus epidemic could dramatically worsen the desperate situation of millions of people. Scientists are searching for the source of the virus that has infected the entire world the outbreak began in the chinese city of and the 1st reports link to a possible patient 0 with one of the citys wet markets now with the lifting of people can once again go shopping but many are no longer shopping at the wet markets. Unloading the catch of the day in will have the city was the epicenter of the corona virus pandemic sweeping the globe experts say the virus originated in this wet market apart from fresh meat and seafood it also sold wild animals such as bats thought to be the source of the disease. While the hunan Seafood Market remains closed most markets have now reopened to the dismay of International Health experts and politicians. Many locals unless worried. As you call it i think its ok to go to the Seafood Market this virus wenche affect our eating habits because its a special case and there is a lot we dont know for instance we havent confirmed that it comes from the you nancy food market sorted that we have eaten wild animals for thousands of years you know what they may have had some problems during processing so we should be more careful with that by cooking them more and checking if theyre fresh. To fail to see how. The markets are traditional and affordable way of shopping in china and customers are returning. Oh were here to work on this is similar to supermarkets so its relatively safe of course to go on from if its unsafe to supermarkets and more expensive still vendors complain tha

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