Transcripts For DW Ocean Grabbing 20240713

Job you made for mines. Out of all. 2 deal with a. Body in a pin as i was coming i was. As you would be on. My show in less than a weekend and ive been with us in my life. The 1st time i came across the term ocean grabbing i sort of imagined this giant hand that was tearing the skin off the ocean it turns out the behind the term is in fact a sinister alliance of very different interests including Development Politics private industry and Environmental Protection groups all hoping to subject our oceans to a new world order. At the beginning of my journey along the front lines of this new development i wasnt aware of how diverse the lives of people on the coasts really are and how closely intertwined they are with the ocean i had no idea that decisions upon which these people have little to no influence had such long lasting effects here did you know that 120000000 people live from fishing and that half of those people are women. Or that 2 thirds of the fish eaten around the world comes from coastal and small fishing operations. Indeed it is in these Living Spaces that the latest variation of global greed is looking for its next catch. More rules more restrictions more fish more profit. Were in a place called troy gotti bandar a makeshift fishing village in western india. Huda ismail is the 1st fisherman i meet on the trip he has been fishing here for over 20 years it was a good life until 2012 when in a neighborhood directly next to his village the Indian Multinational Company top built the mundra ultra mega power plant a 4000 Megawatt Facility fired by coal from indonesia and cooled by water from the arabian sea. The total costs 4600000000. 00. World bank share of that 420000000. 00. Im quoting that i need much less a way of us. Much to invent all of the much noise got into. All militarily or my loved ones and i think you need a lot of a lot of. Going there to find it but theyre. Not telling. The invent. This adonis up on my life. And ill call pointed in them to a new coil much the market kunal think of oil Company Money get that. Money on the. That borders have going to be a low power project for their guy construct some sort of again local new mall see mussina v. I. I. The jewel which the. Name you love to was up to but they can if you have them into. The new chip that have been the bottom bonnie view as a yacht you might see you have one my good only yasuko does we still want to move julie gayet yellow mogambo really little is given as it was but after a while or. Indepth interview with is it here. On the gentlemanly. Full bit is good a look live minute video or a few fish 1000000000 year yes im all for them one. The fisherman of true god he bandar part of the people a Muslim Minority among the kurds coast and other history here goes back over 200 years they typically dont show up in any statistics or registries. Officially they dont even exist at least not as people whose lives needed to be taken into consideration by tata when it built its power plant they are the unaccounted for the ordinary people who get in the way of great change or at least in the way of great greed. While buddha is mio watches the daily catch arrive a fishing village on the other side of the world is waking from its slumber. There are no cars and bought a dell colorado just book. I get to know a man named Carlos Martinez and his wife maria mendez who like most people in the village live off of the shrimp and lobster catch. Its been this way for generations since their ancestors settled here they too are the unaccounted for the people who lost their lands to the plantation barons of the 19th century. As we get to know each other i learned to appreciate in both of them the certainty with which they trudge through a life that really has no certainty and certainly has very little money. In. The ocean is often fickle. The shrimp only come twice a year and sometimes not at all still carlos doesnt want to think about any other kind of work and around here there was no other work anyway. There are no streets leading to bottle colorado all there is is a river that flows into the caribbean just a few kilometers away from the village. The fishermen call the transition to the sea the barrier indeed when the sea rears its temperamental head it can be an unbreachable obstacle for their boats. But when you love the ocean it will love you back as unpredictable as it may be a good percentage of the animal it was handed over than any other oh. Yeah no i mean again one of those you know the other but i. Would both know you dont go to a not not not an old number 10000 going that will. Typically they fish with 2 to 3 boats. Nobody goes out alone. Let that. Shit out. There other. Shrimp are caught using dragnets that have steel weights so the fishermen can drag them across the ocean floor in industrial deep sea fishing this method is justifiably controversial but does small time shrimp fishing in the caribbean really have to be outlawed as a result. We might be going through a mental. Big enemy not enough is going to come i dont. Eat the money i come with i want to grow again it went to the it has no 1. 00 to nifong or whatever you want to believe but i want that sort of it is not within the lines and i must think im going to come out on as one of the gate theyre not going to deal with. Canada but there was already an adult in where im working. But you know i wasnt wary of growth that was going on with the judge or the one im lead is and so the parent and so they were not going to get it but at the end. 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I dont matter unless they pull your own for a lot of 1000000 to get through your day and it was he and the people going up as a model hit us with them yearly maybe and theres a lot of space and i meant that but i mean those are the at the navy seal they have their pick out of. The better i mean i hand the campus are there any new. Im back out thought i mean the kind of get up at. Any moment of this and keep it up is the thing that i mean if it isnt it is simply out of you know by the always. Cases chavez is the founder and president of a Fishing Cooperative that for 4 years now has been fighting a tenacious battle against far reaching decisions taken in the distant capital he doesnt do it for himself but for his neighbors and his village. Beyond fishing there is limited opportunity for making a living and feeding a family and bought a dent colorado and the business profits are minimal and most people dont even fish for more than what they need themselves its. The places distinguished by an unusual sense of social connection and warmth. Most visitors would think bought a dell colorado just fell out of some imaginary world beyond time but the problems here are very real. And i thought. That. I thought. That. There are between 6. 00 and 8. 00 men per boat with a net that weighs one and a half tons and a beach to pull their catch on shore. Thats how neil susanto and his team fish on the coast of western sri lanka in calcutta. To the detriment of the fishermen in this area more and more hotels have sprung up for tourists from all around the world. By intimate im dipping a little bit on to the main. Way how they were going to be able to have the. Ability. Is invariably to make it or does he. Feel no negative ads you didnt. Appeal even if you were doing them a very. Good recipe grew up in a given nabby will not be me it will only sell a minute im going to get around to that the. I love you with. The money thing without getting any out of my meeting or going to my own night. What i thought i might do you got the money the money the money that i love never negative man landed in. Hollywood who. Made you the mood or you know when i look you up well they know when i give you what. They know wanna. Say to you or i want us out there in the garden and i want to. Say. Well the let me about a number not you but it is a little bit of time be careful. Of we do it. When i meet meals to santa for the 1st time he still doesnt have a license telling him which section of the beach he is allowed to use. His fishing anyway though. After all he needs to provide for his family and pay his 12. 00 employees. As a kid meals wife mary was santy experienced 1st hand how her parents were driven from the fisheries off the coast of nigam bow about 200 kilometers south of her new home. She knows what happens when the hotels start popping up. That immortal galloping up anybody maybe to take a look at the family and what not yet im going and what order that plucked out what happened last night and have not happy about it but not that im particularly happy means a lot of fun thank you. Ghazi is a sleepy village on the Southern Coast of kenya. Nearly everyone here lives off the ocean and they fish around the clock. Compared to buddhist catches in india or the yields from carlos and bought a dell colorado the ocean is teeming with life here in kenya. What was it that it was going to do i did it. Only fishes during the day. While the night fishermen are still selling their catch on the beach hes getting his boat ready to go out. As a younger man could only think of one thing getting out of gaza. He traded his life in the village for temporary jobs in the city that is until he realized that he just couldnt live without the ocean. Doesnt want you being to come like you just got. To do the most of the openings in. The mostly. Nobody did you know going on mondays and up and down and on the monday and up until this does the. Nobody does anything on the use. Of. It which only opening the money. Means Something Like we who are together with the mangroves its also the name of an unusual project through a british nongovernmental organization. Cell c o 2 certificates on the International Emissions market with the proceeds Community Projects are financed to provide things like Drinking Water health care and the reforestation of the mangroves single. Body if you suddenly see this i know what i mean me. And you get on my heels. When you. See. What you are. Not to but you need to plan a meeting that we do need to. Focus on. Environmental protection is a Community Effort and. Is a successful project that relies on local knowledge and cooperation with the fisherman. In costa rica on the other hand carlos and his colleagues mostly view Nature Conservation as a form of prohibition imposed by a far away government. The shrimp dragnets of course turn up the ocean floor. But near the coast here there are no coral reefs or precious marine fun and they can be destroyed by the nets. The sea bed is entirely sandy in this area. So how much damage can shrink fishing cost to justify the crusade being waged against it by environmentalists in the caribbean. According to the most recent studies none at all i dont know what im going to be at they never going to get in that im young thing i mean that is that. The internet would have gone on the only other ways it came on the mind that you might not like wouldnt. You see them being but i you prevent those i mean to prevent going on in that is and you i mean that is the money that is not a good movie. And im going to do it he will and im going to bet on all of that i will get. You out when im gone but ive got a long Little Television were going to win a lot of that were going to gain a lot of that will get you i think at bay you know if you want to close it but again but if you dont get a lot of then go back. To fish for shrimp you 1st need to drag a net for about 20 minutes along the ocean floor. That is the easier part of the process. Then comes the hard part. First the weights that hold the net on the ocean floor have to be hoisted up. And then the net is pulled back into the boat. Sometimes its fuller than others. Carlos his calculation is simple one hour of dragging the net cost 6 liters of petrol which cost him about 6. 00 euros one kilo of unprocessed shrimp fetches 3 euros so everything under 3 kilos is a loss on a good day he catches about 200. 00 kilos in half an hour on a bad day even after hours of hard work he comes up with a miserable yield that doesnt even cover his petrol costs or his personal needs. Carlos and maria see ocean grabbing in this case an expansion of maritime conservation zones as a direct attack on their livelihood. And why for most there it is. Well it is city yeah. Exclusion. Even. Discriminate youll take it in a queue it must. Be in my man who is actually on his boat the. Most. Of the. That is god is there in the big money city insist if you dont use. The. Space katie is with. Her. With a bit of money said ng is the section of the course of us you proceedings. Live in rivera is a marine biologist and founder of the Environmental Group corp salty dog for 4 years now she has been moderating discussions between the bought a dell colorado Fishing Cooperative and the government of costa rica. Shes been making the journey to bought a dell colorado a lot in recent years. This time shes taking the long boat trip to prepare the fishermen of the cooperative for a National Fisheries congress in the capital. Many friendships have been formed over the years. The nothing at the end i think is a sieve sentences that is as good at picking it up or get done in the store thats the good news it was then and foremost and its taught us. If it is important it is going to be out in. Better and i mean as i did in the going to go yet my fork in the rye get out of the if you have a thought it would. Be our daughter not at all and yesterday will. See eat. Up way for it is out as well but have already made up a call to ask this one as. I see you have not got it barely. Get laid in the side. You know son in law to my ticket lot of a lot of. People i didnt even know there are no sunday loaned. Me out im not going to. Get any at all on the u. F. C. Im likin that the. Every summer about 1000. 00 muslim biography families make the trek from their villages in the interior of the country to the standing fishing areas along the gulf of kush. All together they are about 10000 people. The fishing season lasts about 8 months during which they live and improvised shelters without electricity or water theres been no Drinking Water since the only fresh water well was spoiled by salt water from the discharge tunnel of the power plant. They primarily fish for bombay duck an indian ocean fish that is sold in dried form. The women of the family do the drying and processing under the attentive eye of mary ahmed buddha ismails wife. The 2 have been married for over 40 years now. And i think. Such a thing being said very well is death. Dying there. With the me i have yet to malula. Their life that i know that you dont have. A life of my field dont feed me. I need to live all that for a man even thought that was that i had never looked like that we told our larry that the little. Boy had a lot to everybody had given him then you will be able. I just ask you that in people i love you to find within my living the bad those. That he never let me never thats a the bible and if you would say if you have any damage among the years i think you get that at the end it does would. Go your group where you have some International Corporation or a super high risk. I know surely supports. Who i have see who we. Were. Close and i would like you to. Work with a good leader. Here. Ceilidh nobody wanted to g. O. P. I get the obama will likely go a little prickly broom and new way the wall was added to the. Give us a lot according to the author we Supreme Court pretty good may be related to you but i did it i have sickly we need new years lee it was nature of the day and if you. And i mean theyre. Coming. Down. Here. In 2007 part tell founded a purchase a collective with other small fish mongers in the region. Their goal was to help relieve fishermen of their debt by demanding higher prices on the markets for their fish. And his effort helped create an environment of trust and friendship. Came up with the idea of suing the world bank for damage compensation buddha immediately got on board. And then i realized here is a muslim and a hindu working together in a way that seemed incredibly natural to take on one of the most powerful organizations in the world. So clearly. You. Do what i think you. Do. Raises the temperature in the outflow of the power plant. That warms the temperature of the water on the beach to over 35. 00 degree celsius and a warm wind blows through the settlement it feels like a desert. Every year the power plant burns 10. 00 to 12000000. 00 tonnes of coal. At full pelt that translates 263000 tons of c o 2 emissions per day. Given these numbers a c o 2 project in a small remote village on the kenyan coast would seem pretty insignificant at 1st glance. But that doesnt concern the people of gaza. Whats important for them is that money coming from their trade and c o 2 emissions is flowing from industrialized countries into local development projects. Gazi is an example of what is possible. More and more villages along kenyas coast are taking that example to plan their own Community Projects to be financed by the trade in c o 2 emissions. Physically come under the same i dont wonder from a couple more days when the same problem rather than a dozen dead ones on you know but its my job on the job for us and not for you not being 10100 im sippin in terms of leno not you know one of the man on the music somebody bundlers the monday night youre 21 you said jim some full price will come on the. Moon but i do have some. New a new number ive got my book since it was about were not walking over to an i. E. D. Money every month and then you know number 12 and end up between whos idea was it who know who im a nobody even. If you dont get it were going to send. You to me coco as work is a communal effort today project manager. Is out in about with some folks from the nearby village of mckown jamie its a hard slog to fight through the mangroves. 2 times a month the spring tide floods the entire forest leaving a deep viscous foul smelling quagmire in its wake if you fall down typically all you get is laughter because it happens to everyone at some point. In mohali new glass im like in a mile and a person like you when i tell them i now listen my god oh god oh go on of course i will go to one of our to come. Up with. My vote how under my shamming he. Will body in the way i see i want to. Be on you know was a knowing i might have to cut him out of the book i was a valium to a call you know on bottom well enough but i have opiates and i said i will be seeking seeking to god like you look natural like if i think you see what looks like yes you can of yourself but another tornado is not about going into the courtroom seats with a mine are going to tell you that the world. Will know you r. C. C. Enough when it goes up on the. Lucky me the impact is. About equal to the un jemma playground change. In the unions him on experience level key to a much akin any fine of nightline. Might be a name to look for cousin items that. If you know more than once and. Sell certificates for 3000. 00 tonnes of Carbon Dioxide emissions every year. Every tonne is worth 6. 00. That translates to 18000. 00 per year for the village over the next 20 years. Yeah. Theres a look at that point drop out of your ears all the people who dont call get up i say i dont buy it i thought oh my god we tell you that bottom of the head back and i freaked out i. Mean what he said yeah you said when i came here i. Bet it means youre not a your band that you really think youd be any. Better i better not get denied he says yeah yeah dour like period keep on getting that easy. 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Money thats 81. 00 isnt that is the had ideas but the he has seemed to space gods is left in the indians can sense with an invisible star perspective is only one percent. What really hit me about the situation. That there are Interest Groups in Nature Conservation who demand that small villages give up their livelihoods for merry time conservation zones and in the process end up taking their homelands away from them. These people need to be taken care of by the government. But what sense do these landscapes make without the people who live their life. Wouldnt it make more sense for all of us to live more sustainable lives especially in industrialized countries. What was it that carlos said. You never see those environmental activists out here in our communities. I thought there. Was. Anything. Gotcha undressing is matter of navi now panchayati in western india. He owns a number of cotton fields and date plantations. His yields have dwindled since the top power plant began operation. In the carbon dust settles relentlessly over his fields and trees and the groundwater is now salivated. Hes led the village resistance against the power plant. It nearly. Home you know the name and they can mend no. No what got you there you know when youre old the old order of the look of the eyes youve got big deal dependency. Youve got to cut the movie a great deal of money is gone. Go look man. Youve made a sensible do you have been doing. Our own technical development. On the. Way because me when you look mentioning my boys even. Seem to have had a mean holding. A modest sum program as you want to. Project. For me some of them. But ill. Be if you need me to resist this if. If you. Really need to keep the fish discovered only to replace your dog let. Me go to. Would it was in the clear that we did with. Those did you discover though is that. In big big initialisation would be. Meals team consists of 12 men who he has to pay and provide for even if the seat is too rough to go out which it was for several days. Fortunately the weather changed last night. The ocean has made itself available once again to the needs of its residents who are now busy at work without worrying that the coast guard will interfere in them only. Me that i. Want to be doing well and i mean. Going to baghdad. To go with. It it would only. Be on the. I mean were going to be like them are my mama going to save them money when it. Again i never got to heidi and i dont or do you know any big i did but. Its what got me a moment i remembered. Because im going to buy that and you get. Him a bag. They did and i got. To dig it out on the time of the the moon and you know anna. But then i did it because i did the d. N. A. D. N. A. There. It will not. Be. At the end of this journey i find myself once again in gaza city on the kenyan coast his son is just coming back from fishing this he was calm today the wind was out of the north and the currents led them to the right fishing grounds. After getting a glimpse into the lives of hassan and the fishermen in India Sri Lanka and costa rica i think to myself that the future of our oceans would be better left in their hands. I think the us did it well having. Come up when we come on the. News need to call the mine and youll. Get the money to fund them and you. Cannot believe that. He would do it if yes he did in the. Book that he would. Die less often the unity. Of course and then look at the. Body. And then i think. That the war that we can. Yes there but after he got us in most if. Not but that picked up 7 the number that he got it done it to the mom or that the mother made it up obama put up let me look it up and mom didnt come up to give up the little mama did the puppy do that and i followed up i gave up the mom all day. After day one that had to be done not to go to mama will die mama did the mother pretty good but then the beloved a mammal then it led to the bottom of that. At the end of our film there actually is a happy ending one in which the ordinary people succeed in their fight against developments that are seemingly beyond their control. On the 27th of february 29th teen the u. S. Supreme court ruled in favor of my indian friend who is my hero. The decision ended the absolute immunity of World Bank Affiliate i f c from lawsuits in u. S. Courts from now on the world bank is accountable to people affected by its investments and it can be sued for damages by anyone in the world. India. 1. 3000000000. They all made electricity. 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