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DW Paradise Or Robocalypse July 13, 2024

This is what suni. She is a hologram. And this is akihito condo her husband were. Were. Hello. You look today. I love culture ends. Meet cool is a simple form of Artificial Intelligence and for condo it was a case of love at 1st sight nico has become a legitimate pop star and even appears at concerts as a 3 d. Projection. In nov 28th kondo married nico at a ceremony in tokyo the place the ring around the wrist of a miku dog. He now keeps it all in his bedroom. Condos relationships with real women have been painful so he chose a virtual partner. Were generalized i love her but its hard to say if she loves me for them still if you asked her no i think shed say yes. d the tsunami cool and akihito condo are an extreme example of the relationship between people and machines i got. In the future will no doubt spend more time interacting with technology that uses Artificial Intelligence or ai we may even develop robots that are smarter than we are. Now in the 21st century we will have to decide how to deal with this complicated new situation. For this report we interviewed philosophers and scientists around the world. We talked to german philosopher Thomas Metzinger who advocates the use of ethics guidelines for Ai Development in the e. U. Physicist max tegmark who warns about the development of an all powerful ai and a totalitarian surveillance state. And german Computer Scientist youre going to schmidt who who predicts that ai will spread from the earth into the cosmos. And we met professor schmidt who at a business conference in zurich. He often speaks at such of ems where he outlines his vision of the role that Artificial Intelligence may play in our future. But they choose. His presentations are wide ranging and thought provoking. Not answered in the near future perhaps a few decades from now we will for the 1st time have a i can do much more than people can do right now in their own as healing schemata and we will realize that the majority of physical resources are not confined to a rather small biosphere. Isnt in our solar system thats theres a lot of the tools that can be used to build robots we could develop robots transmitters and receivers that would allow the ai to be sent and received the speed of light. We could already do this in a laboratory c. S. I. And me on the end of this would be a Huge Development thats the most important since the beginning of life an earth tree in her 5000000000 years ago. But if the professors vision accurate. Will humans at some point be overtaken by super intelligent machines. Perhaps this process has already begun. To find out more we travel to japan. Doctors and scientists at the university of tokyo as Research Hospital are exploring the potential use of ai in medicine. Here. 69 year old Jaco Yamashita nearly died of leukemia 2 years ago none of the therapy options recommended by doctors did any good. And putting then they used Ai Technology to create a new diagnosis. Yet for you was the only way i literally saved my life when these people. The diagnosis took all of 10 minutes a human expert would have needed 2 weeks to produce a similar analysis. A i could process massive amounts of Scientific Data a stack of documents taller than mount fuji. This is the Research Hospitals supercomputer. Weve come here to talk to such tolu miano an expert on bioinformatics we asked me on whether ai could one day replace doctors no i dont think the mean time simply stop for. Clinicians and our. Only mission. Limitation one followed you and. Theyre told pelley dont lets just go. Home points down if you cant move theyre going to be. Good then we need a car. And this is the same. Bullet followed through were trying to link and some ways to but. At the nearby rican Institute Researchers are developing an ai diagnostic program that could be used to test for stomach cancer. But one expert here disagrees with the toral me on his opinion that ai will never replace doctors. So i know a lot about all if you were made redundant by Artificial Intelligence that wouldnt be good for his doctors what it should have but for the human race would actually be great of doctors who are no longer necessary if Ai Technology could improve or work or even take over. And. Its hard to imagine a world that had no doctors. Do patients really want to be treated by machines that see them as nothing more than accumulations of technical data. In europe a number of experts on Artificial Intelligence including youre going to schmidt who are carrying out research on the use of ai in medical diagnostics. The swiss president i lambast say has invited scientists and entrepreneurs to a conference aimed at planning for the Digital Future and promoting the use of Artificial Intelligence in medicine. One topic for discussion is Ai Technology that can use Neural Networks to learn just as the human brain does. By. Soon all medical diagnostics will be infinitely better than humans can provide right now. Because we have developed ai that uses Neural Network technology. Thats just. Here and its exciting to see how this new development will be able to help people to live longer earn healthier lives as leave fewer mention. We travel to stuttgart to see how Artificial Intelligence works in practice in hospitals and Nursing Homes Computer Scientists bigot coffee says that japan has made a lot of progress in developing robots that can look after patients but there are some things that a machine simply cant do. Play give up on those and what they can provide real care so i dont use that word when im talking about robots and caregivers have to be able to interact emotionally with the patients and a robot simply cant do that. Doesnt think to come up with an issue as it seemed at this facility robots are helping to reduce the workload of the human staff. Each time im carol but 3 this week im helping the nurses with their work would you like something to drink. No thanks that is very kind of a young man here were coming. And. Of course robots can do much more than simply serve drinks in Nursing Homes. Philosopher Thomas Metzinger has proposed Pragmatic Solutions for dealing with this new technology. Defrocking we have a vicious bill for example the options for using ai in robotics in geriatric care he should maintain the dignity of the patients thats a kind of money often i could ask individuals if theyd actually feel more comfortable having a machine change their diapers rather than a Family Member and just going to do it shows as a sign of a school whether that enjoy having a machine read the newspaper to them or ask questions about their medication or if they find that degrading i believe that we are now at the beginning of a major learning process weve been on some on from my mrs torsion down for. Metzinger says that humankind is now on the threshold of a new age that is filled with uncertainty she lives in frankfort a city that aims to take the lead in european Ai Development. There are plans to set up an Artificial Intelligence Research Center there. Are thoughts your own volatile people are rushing to get into this new technology. Like theyre running for the ai train before it leaves the station. I know we know is when that will happen its all over the train is headed off. But Everyone Wants to be on board have to call. Metzinger serves on the European Parliament commission of ai experts and right now hes on his way to brussels for a Commission Meeting. The parliament wants europe to compete effectively end of elevating this technology but it also wants to impose clear ethical guidelines. Metzinger is particularly concerned about the prospects for a new arms race that uses ai based weapons. Concrete to spice theres a hypothetical example. Lets say that assume of Chinese Technology experts goes to the countrys leaders and says weve now won the ai arms race against the us that will have an excellent 1st strike opportunity for the next 6 months i know then work for the window of opportunity will close it for the next 6 more not a donkey it is a site and starts with country not so much i could imagine for example that this might involve Delivery Systems for that would be armed with biological warfare agents just keep those call these mechanisms to dennis the opponents territories and spread pathogens like the a bowl a virus or anthrax bacteria on to the ground part. I would ask my country for after us also we may 1 day see the development of intelligent weapons of mass destruction that could break through the traditional Defense Systems in 50 optician if that were to happen it would definitely increase the chances for conflict these attentional new keady creaks im tired its really a visa. But at the Commission Meeting metzinger is having a tough time trying to make sure that the problem of ai weapon systems is addressed in the panels code of ethics. Many of the Business Executives and academics simply dont want to deal with it which. Some are concerned about messing us proposal and would prefer to turn it over to experts for further evaluation. Of those weapons but we have to stick with this. We actually measure in there or elsewhere this is something that is an old ethical officer that will use it as a use case to build our. If you can read this to our guy i would like to. Is that. On the table we want to open up to the point that we obviously have a strong disagreement about the whole autonomous weapon systems here and we cant solve the issue like this with a voting process i mean we want these ethical guidelines to be a success when the 22nd january the whole world has already been talking about the issue 24000 scientists have signed a public pledge that they will not participate in that kind of research if the e. U. Comes out with 6 guidelines that seem peacekeeper over that issue and ignore it then everybody in and outside of the e. U. Would know this is probably just an industrial anything or something in the end metzinger prevails autonomous Weapons Systems will be included in the panels ethics guidelines experts in other parts of the world are also concerned about the potential for developing weapons of mass destruction. Weve come to boston massachusetts to talk to swedish american physicist author and expert max tegmark. He says that physics has made enormous contributions to Human Development but also helped to create the nuclear bomb and now well have to deal with ai weapons. We should stigmatize and ban some certain class really discuss the weapons that are perfect for terrorists and honestly murder people or dictatorships through nominees to murder their citizens because these weapons are going to be incredibly cheap and if anyone goes ahead and mass produces them theyre going to become as unstoppable in the future is to scan for example cheap drones that you might be able to buy for a few 100 years. Those where you just program in the address of somebody and we see their face tries their id into place in the face recognition feels themselves just perfect for anyone who wants the murder of some politician or the ethnic cleansing on a different place from the if this sort of acknowledge the slaughter bots becomes what its grand its going to have it actually had devastating effect on the open society that we have. Nobody anymore is going to feel they have the courage to. Challenge the criticize anybody any science can be used for new ways of helping people learn new ways of harming people biologists succeeded and getting biological weapons bad which is why we think of biology now as the source of new cures physicists on the other hand we kind of failed because Nuclear Weapons are still here and not going away ai researchers want to be more like the biologists and have ai be remembered as something which really made the world better. Weve come to the switzerland to interview youre going about his work with Artificial Intelligence. Hoover is codirector of the dalai institute for Artificial Intelligence research. His work focuses on Neural Networks which imitate the functions of the human brain. These networks are capable of learning and adapting to the world around them just as human children do. Schmidt who points out that right now the human brain has a 1000000 times more neural connections than the best ai systems. But computers are becoming much faster and could become smarter than humans in 20 or 30 years. That is also says that when that happens the only things that would distinguish people from machines would be flesh and blood. But what about human attributes such as compassion creativity love and empathy. Whats your own soon i dont think i systems are capable of developing their own versions of emotion and affection on down and for example if you were to give several of these systems it turns that they could only complete by working together they would learn how to do that you know can clear artificial brains which come to the conclusion that to get the job done they have to cooperate with each other once its something i can get and use a scene when analyse and follow these into ensuring this interaction the systems would learn to rely on each other. Concept in. So theres a reason to believe that one of the side effects of this cooperative efforts would be the development of concepts such as love affection as fact. But Artificial Intelligence systems learn to empathize with humans. Were turned to brussels where the Ethics Committee is discussing the topic of social ai. Some ai systems are already pretty capable of functioning just as humans would. Thomas metzinger has called for clear guidelines that govern the interaction between people and machines. Just call for a systems that dont identify themselves as such when theyre dealing with humans. They give people the impression that theyre a real person and not a machine. Should never be allowed to manipulate the people who use it. You know. Last year at a conference near San Francisco google c. E. O. Sundar pichai unveiled the companys latest product it involves just the sort of technology that Thomas Metzinger warned about. Good morning. Welcome to google is going to impact many many fields our mission for us is to help you get things done. It turns out big part of getting things done is making a phone call you may want to get an Oil Change Schedule maybe call a plumber in the middle of the week or you. And schedule a haircut appointment so what youre going to hear is the Google Assistant its called google duplex actually calling a real salon to schedule an appointment for you lets listen ringback. Oh how they are here how i like the current haircut for a client im looking for something and they paired. Up. Who are what time are you looking for. At 12 pm we do not have the ball on the bell ball the quote that we have is the one that. You have everything the people have am and pm depending on what he would like were there that he looking court the woman haircut for now ok we have a kind of car had a and im ok with paper thin it the 1st thing in. Our paper but i repeat only that panic part on me. Ok great pain great have a great. That was a real call you just heard isnt on it dismays it ethical for a machine to pretend that its human and means perhaps not like neat we can already build machines that does and trick us into thinking that something is human in a restricted scenario lights to duplex for example i think it would be a good idea to have a law. Requiring that when you get a fold up for example or you. Buy an ai you get alerted to the fact that this is not human. Otherwise its just going to be a nightmare of phishing scams and so on because suddenly cost nothing you know to waste 10000000. 00 peoples time and trick the most gullible thing people into thinking geez d if. We returned to San Francisco. The city and the region around it are home to countless high Tech Startup Companies many of them use Artificial Intelligence technology to develop their products and services. Eugenia quita arrived here 4 years ago from moscow. She cofounded her own Company Called replica and is now the c. E. O. Replica is best known for creating a chat bot an Artificial Intelligence system that can interact with people. The concept began as a tribute to one of her best friends who was killed in a traffic accident. My friend from moscow on. The last year or so will live together here and some cisco. Here. And i was working on mine so it was like. Trying to figure out some cisco. Kind of chapter of our lives. Heres a visionary and i just really. Want to. Get a visa and last one together. Was crossing the street. The next. Like 4 m

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