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This is the day. I say get out get out i cant guarantee. That were protecting you and it means a lot more to you theyre protecting our troops our not much protection we get by protecting you because you think it was the way the German Government has been informed that the u. S. Administration is considering reducing the presence of u. S. Forces in germany. Is the fact is that the presence off United States soldiers in germany so that overrules security off the Nato Alliance is. Also coming up tonight the coronavirus is not going away they may be lifting lockdowns in here and in the u. S. But in africa more lockdowns may be on the way the w. H. O. Wants the pandemic is accelerating we know that it took 90 days to reach the 100000 cases and only 19 days to move 2200000 cases so even though these cases and calling for less than 3 percent of the global toto is clear that the pandemic is accelerating. We begin the day with news of a shrinking u. S. Military presence here in europe the government or the German Government says it has received word from washington. That the number of u. S. Troops stationed here will be reduced President Donald Trump has audit the removal of nearly 10000. 00 troops from germany that would cut the total number stationed in the country by a but berlin isnt the only ally coming under pressure from the Trump Administration the white house has also osce japan to significantly up its contribution to maintaining American Forces the u. S. Has guaranteed japans defense since the end of world war 2 it has more than 50000. 00 personnel stationed at the cities across the country washington puts the price tag at some 5700000000. 00 much of which is already paid for by japan now the cost sharing agreement is due to be renegotiated next year japan is already spending more on defense but on its own forces. Soldiers practice landing unfabulous vehicles in a picturesque bay on japan south coast drive out open the hatch climbs the hatch and them head back to the beach its as if they were planning to set off a new sure some time soon perhaps around the officer and commanders not allowed to talk to us about back. To duty overseas its important to train the soldiers one is the driver ones the huntsman its not always easy to make a team out of them you know youre pretty through arms go through. According to its constitution japan isnt supposed to have an army and many wanted to stay that way. We dont want to pander fighter moles all over the world not even on americas sorry thats why were against the drills. Even so turkey seems to be preparing to enter the military world stage the defense minister recently deployed this destroyer to the gulf of amman in an interview he says is a completely harmless mission. Is aware of his own power he wants to become prime minister. Would you ban like to play a more active role military role on the world stage we believe sending our destroyer to the region to get enough information to secure the past safes passage or japanese or japan related ships are important for us so thats why we sending it were not part of. American initiative nor european or you run union issued every its strictly on our own isnt that risky i mean there could be some kind of conflict and you are right why should we be in it but if everythings fine why you need to wash it in the region what we need to get the information to secure the safe passage all were tankers or other ships so were sending them for information gathering whats wrong with it. Just a recognizance mission. And some people see it differently. Us asian relations expert Glenn Fukushima for example finds the idea amazing. Although i think as defense minister thats what he had to say you know just as when quizzed he was asked on the diet. Is it not dangerous for the soul to fence force to be in combat zones he said well to sort of times worse is there by definition that is not a combat zone. So that was his answer. Behind the scenes of u. S. Japanese military relations and then it is less easy carrying them here American Military units stationed has tell me trying to aid missions with the japanese earthquakes for example but since washington has demanded much more money from japan for u. S. Troops tensions have risen considerably it is actually cheaper to have a marine stationed in japan than to have them in san diego. So if we pay for the novel then they will become sort of mercenary and i dont think you are so forces that will like to do that. Posh words especially coming from an otherwise loyal to pam is a possible future government leader seeking to expand his influence in a big way insiders say there is support for this in the ruling party but less so amongst the japanese people. And for more tonight i am joined by case of a its a hes member of the german parliaments Foreign Affairs committee and a former general staff officer off the German Armed Forces and zachary haas fort he is the Deputy Director of the asia program and the German Marshall Fund in washington d. C. Gentlemen welcome to both of you mr case of a step has the trumpet ministration told you why it wants to withdrawal a 3rd of its troops from germany. Knows so far there was no explanation at all we have nothing against it however this should be achieved amongst partners and it should be coordinated and not announced while the media. Writes so what exactly have you been told have you been given a timeline for that for the troop reduction. Now we only have heard that the idea is to reduce the troops by the end of september this year our demand from the parliament is that there should not be any effects prior to the us president ial election so we would like to see the new administration to handle this topic but this is not be done within the several months because there are thousands of people and also their families and there are also contracts and we are as a Strong Partner for the United States would like to see these troops to stay in germany. All right mr hawes but ill come to you now lets consider the pacific for a moment to be the us once japan to pay even more for the u. S. Military umbrella why would miss a trump be making this to monta now well its its difficult to know exactly whats behind his thinking but if we look back at statements that donald trump has made both as president and when he was a canned candidate running for president in 2016 certainly indicated that he was thinking more of a lion says as very transactional in nature really focused on dollar amounts rather than allies working together or collaboratively to address shared values or or promote shared interests and so when the trumpet ministration interview goshi asians with the South Koreans and then now with the japanese asking for a much higher amount its really raised a lot of questions both in washington but also in asia i mean look at what we know that china is a rising military apollo in japan speculum the South China Sea is abuzz with it we hear very often how does Donald Trumps demond strengthen the block against china here. Yeah its important for the u. S. And japan to maintain their Strong Alliance weve actually been working very hard over the past few years to increase in iraq or ability to make sure our forces work well together in part because of the military modernization from china and its increased use of maritime vessels both coast guard and Peoples Liberation army navy vessels which of have been a significant challenge and so it is very important for us to Work Together this unfortunately the question about how much japan should be covering for for u. S. Forces in japan is distracted from this when we really need to be focusing on it ever continuing to to tighten our alliance ok and and what does that mean for that alliance right what does it mean for us japanese ties does if we can this minute she partnership. I dont know if i would go so far to say is it we can sit or at least it wont there will be permanent damage if we are able to to get through this past year or we renegotiate what are called special measures agreements every few years typically every 5 years with south korea or japan and so negotiations of this type are or normal this the amount that were seeking and the explanation for what that amount will cover is different and that is whats caused concerns but ultimately we do have a lot of shared interests and values with japan both see rising challenge from Chinese Military modernization as i said so we will be able to i believe come together in time that alliance but this is a distraction it can give an opportunity to the Chinese Government to try to exploit this distraction and what we really want to see is that there are openings for china or other potential adversaries in that regard. Mr president i want to bring you back in at this point japan and china and the u. S. These are all important for germany as well the changes that washington has to carry out. In germanys even natos interests. Well i think that we need japan as us close and scrum ally we see him as a partner in the alliance for motile at the relisten which is was founded by some german and french prime ministers and ministers nevertheless of what we need is a credible burden sharing a sign from the European Union and the european nato members that we are willing to take over more responsibility from the americans in the close vicinity of europe look to ukraine look to the west on balkans to the new middle east and to libya so as have burden sharing in the u. Of the americans would mean that we take over more responsibility to become more credible on the other side this would also give the american president a signal that he is a could promulgated to the American Population but the europeans are taking over more response an ability to ease the burden of the United States so that they could focus more in the Pacific Region this is very important because we we need the the of the world trade and we need to also theres free sea lines of communications and therefore it is all in one so a close cooperation with japan is also very helpful for the European Union and giving this is really going to happen that we will see troops being pulled out of germany. Well this was an announcement and the question is when and where to if they shift these troops to poland this wont this would not be very negative because poland has a strong. Fear of threat towards the russian movements in border while ations as well as space violations and a lot of hybrid water so this would give a signal for more defense and credibility of nato towards towards russia however we expect from the u. S. President that he is discussing this with his closest ally its allies in the European Union and in nato because you cannot shift troops without coordination with the host nation and germany since its serenity since 1900 is a very Strong Partner and we would like to be handled all saw even and that with the United States this is not the way you treat your close part was ok roger case of its a member of the german parliaments Foreign Affairs committee and a formal general staff officer off the German Armed Forces and separate haas for the deputy direct south asia program at the German Marshall Fund in washington d. C. Gentlemen thank you both for those insights tonight. Its to the Central African country of cameroon now and the story of political rivalry is holding back the fight against the current of iris prevention if its all concentrated on the biggest city do not often a disputed election the government has banned the work off the Opposition Leader maurice come to all but he and his party are determined to press ahead blazing all met some of the 8 because defying the bad. These volunteers income room and getting ready to dish because big 900 prevision keats. They are not fish mind and i call b. S. Consonant ties is not a market in douala the countrys largest city. Cameras Opposition Leader come to critter doogan is ition to hook up the spread of the current of biros. Beef you are happy to get the equipment but authorities see otherwise. The government sees these organisms show its illegal i get to meet these other 2 rides these species get one chance to do this response then the other is that any time i come or a security forces. Series or started a program to a month ago i list of a dozen people have been arrested across the country. Dispensaries who want is reached out to disadvantaged communities almost every day. 300000 kids having donated in over 15 community sioux falls. Because they come up to on a Senior Member of the team says they are not backing down. We are worth a quarter in your despite all the rest and well continue and that was that report somebody my dad has that report youll see it was obvious that in mind of this your retarded boy up to be im not going back of course im no continuing only im a will block who we are because they need to see. And we need to do our best so there is no way to stop it. Interior minister who. Was not available on our request for an interview. Didnt you know bios is not really spread in the country we more than 6500 cases fis must we make composing it through. New positions continue to distribute hygiene kits to people who cant afford them. Not deserve i am so happy i have spent much from my little savings to buy Hand Sanitizer and i dont even have enough money to buy food but i had to struggle to get a job or did i dont im now joined by dr mary stephen whos working as a technical officer at the w. H. O. Regional office called good evening to you have the w. H. O. What you didnt have at the pandemic is exeter raising in africa is the continent ready. Yes so we as. You do on the continent want to situation if you look at look at the Different Countries it varies from country to country the pandemic is driven by 10 countries over 80 percent of this case is imported from 10 countries india continents so we still have some through countries that our report in less than 100 kids is small we havent seen the peak yet be continents and countries continue to enhance the preparedness and readiness capacities to respond to increasing number of cases so we are seeing countries establishing Community Hospitals trying to build capacity or enhance capacity at the lower levels of the Health System because given the peculiarity of assistance in africa most of the capacity if you find them at the National Border because of these potential increase in number of cases they are beginning to decentralize to buca placidity to be able to detect 2 tests to isolate treat and also contact where is. The people that might have been exposed to positive call we include the implementation of preventive measures among the members of the community saw the issue of respiratory educated. Dont want. One we have on our desk just to see that sorry to interrupt you there but i do want to ask you this we are still talking about africa being the least effective region in the world what is the explanation behind this. Yes africa is the least affected. Region in terms of pierces in terms of deaths so the beginning of the outbreak you record is the continent that had the importation of kids this last so we started having. 19 kids by a new theory and were in guess where we boarded up most all continents of the world so before i didnt know there were already countries were already implementing into screening and some of them where quarantine trouble us for now quite a number of countries minute to detect imported keirsey guess is in the end of some of them were at the point of entry somewhere. People would inquire into minded to quarantine and they were able to limit this to the 4 dust cleared of these. Communities so in terms of the deaths we also have. A younger population and. Learns off more beauties that one tree roots tool ones chances of dying so these are some of the factors that affect what to do and the number of. Very interesting and thank you for that insight that struck him a steven from the w. H. O. In Congo Brazzaville thank you. Ukraine is one of the few countries in the world where sarika sea is affordable and easy to arrange but the Global Health emergency has prevented dozens of parents from joining the new born children the wrong way it has been painful for couples but potentially disastrous for Childrens Development now some families have finally managed to be united as a correspondent because that one such family. One month and 3 days late but at least theyre together. And traveled more than 10000 kilometers by car through continent in lockdown to finally meet their daughter. She still has to get used to us she doesnt know who we are. Their daughter spent her 1st month with a carer in an apartment her parents only able to see her on a screen. You know the so sad we were crying just seeing her pictures and unable to do anything for her you just feel so helpless all you can do is wait. As their daughters birth came and went and with no end to look down in sight all people are injured elders could do was scour the ukrainian press with the help of a translation app on the lookout for some sign of hope neither the Spanish Government nor the German Government<\/a> has been informed that the u. S. Administration is considering reducing the presence of u. S. Forces in germany. Is the fact is that the presence off United States<\/a> soldiers in germany so that overrules security off the Nato Alliance<\/a> is. Also coming up tonight the coronavirus is not going away they may be lifting lockdowns in here and in the u. S. But in africa more lockdowns may be on the way the w. H. O. Wants the pandemic is accelerating we know that it took 90 days to reach the 100000 cases and only 19 days to move 2200000 cases so even though these cases and calling for less than 3 percent of the global toto is clear that the pandemic is accelerating. We begin the day with news of a shrinking u. S. Military presence here in europe the government or the German Government<\/a> says it has received word from washington. That the number of u. S. Troops stationed here will be reduced President Donald Trump<\/a> has audit the removal of nearly 10000. 00 troops from germany that would cut the total number stationed in the country by a but berlin isnt the only ally coming under pressure from the Trump Administration<\/a> the white house has also osce japan to significantly up its contribution to maintaining American Forces<\/a> the u. S. Has guaranteed japans defense since the end of world war 2 it has more than 50000. 00 personnel stationed at the cities across the country washington puts the price tag at some 5700000000. 00 much of which is already paid for by japan now the cost sharing agreement is due to be renegotiated next year japan is already spending more on defense but on its own forces. Soldiers practice landing unfabulous vehicles in a picturesque bay on japan south coast drive out open the hatch climbs the hatch and them head back to the beach its as if they were planning to set off a new sure some time soon perhaps around the officer and commanders not allowed to talk to us about back. To duty overseas its important to train the soldiers one is the driver ones the huntsman its not always easy to make a team out of them you know youre pretty through arms go through. According to its constitution japan isnt supposed to have an army and many wanted to stay that way. We dont want to pander fighter moles all over the world not even on americas sorry thats why were against the drills. Even so turkey seems to be preparing to enter the military world stage the defense minister recently deployed this destroyer to the gulf of amman in an interview he says is a completely harmless mission. Is aware of his own power he wants to become prime minister. Would you ban like to play a more active role military role on the world stage we believe sending our destroyer to the region to get enough information to secure the past safes passage or japanese or japan related ships are important for us so thats why we sending it were not part of. American initiative nor european or you run union issued every its strictly on our own isnt that risky i mean there could be some kind of conflict and you are right why should we be in it but if everythings fine why you need to wash it in the region what we need to get the information to secure the safe passage all were tankers or other ships so were sending them for information gathering whats wrong with it. Just a recognizance mission. And some people see it differently. Us asian relations expert Glenn Fukushima<\/a> for example finds the idea amazing. Although i think as defense minister thats what he had to say you know just as when quizzed he was asked on the diet. Is it not dangerous for the soul to fence force to be in combat zones he said well to sort of times worse is there by definition that is not a combat zone. So that was his answer. Behind the scenes of u. S. Japanese military relations and then it is less easy carrying them here American Military<\/a> units stationed has tell me trying to aid missions with the japanese earthquakes for example but since washington has demanded much more money from japan for u. S. Troops tensions have risen considerably it is actually cheaper to have a marine stationed in japan than to have them in san diego. So if we pay for the novel then they will become sort of mercenary and i dont think you are so forces that will like to do that. Posh words especially coming from an otherwise loyal to pam is a possible future government leader seeking to expand his influence in a big way insiders say there is support for this in the ruling party but less so amongst the japanese people. And for more tonight i am joined by case of a its a hes member of the german parliaments Foreign Affairs<\/a> committee and a former general staff officer off the German Armed Forces<\/a> and zachary haas fort he is the Deputy Director<\/a> of the asia program and the German Marshall Fund<\/a> in washington d. C. Gentlemen welcome to both of you mr case of a step has the trumpet ministration told you why it wants to withdrawal a 3rd of its troops from germany. Knows so far there was no explanation at all we have nothing against it however this should be achieved amongst partners and it should be coordinated and not announced while the media. Writes so what exactly have you been told have you been given a timeline for that for the troop reduction. Now we only have heard that the idea is to reduce the troops by the end of september this year our demand from the parliament is that there should not be any effects prior to the us president ial election so we would like to see the new administration to handle this topic but this is not be done within the several months because there are thousands of people and also their families and there are also contracts and we are as a Strong Partner<\/a> for the United States<\/a> would like to see these troops to stay in germany. All right mr hawes but ill come to you now lets consider the pacific for a moment to be the us once japan to pay even more for the u. S. Military umbrella why would miss a trump be making this to monta now well its its difficult to know exactly whats behind his thinking but if we look back at statements that donald trump has made both as president and when he was a canned candidate running for president in 2016 certainly indicated that he was thinking more of a lion says as very transactional in nature really focused on dollar amounts rather than allies working together or collaboratively to address shared values or or promote shared interests and so when the trumpet ministration interview goshi asians with the South Koreans<\/a> and then now with the japanese asking for a much higher amount its really raised a lot of questions both in washington but also in asia i mean look at what we know that china is a rising military apollo in japan speculum the South China Sea<\/a> is abuzz with it we hear very often how does Donald Trumps<\/a> demond strengthen the block against china here. Yeah its important for the u. S. And japan to maintain their Strong Alliance<\/a> weve actually been working very hard over the past few years to increase in iraq or ability to make sure our forces work well together in part because of the military modernization from china and its increased use of maritime vessels both coast guard and Peoples Liberation<\/a> army navy vessels which of have been a significant challenge and so it is very important for us to Work Together<\/a> this unfortunately the question about how much japan should be covering for for u. S. Forces in japan is distracted from this when we really need to be focusing on it ever continuing to to tighten our alliance ok and and what does that mean for that alliance right what does it mean for us japanese ties does if we can this minute she partnership. I dont know if i would go so far to say is it we can sit or at least it wont there will be permanent damage if we are able to to get through this past year or we renegotiate what are called special measures agreements every few years typically every 5 years with south korea or japan and so negotiations of this type are or normal this the amount that were seeking and the explanation for what that amount will cover is different and that is whats caused concerns but ultimately we do have a lot of shared interests and values with japan both see rising challenge from Chinese Military<\/a> modernization as i said so we will be able to i believe come together in time that alliance but this is a distraction it can give an opportunity to the Chinese Government<\/a> to try to exploit this distraction and what we really want to see is that there are openings for china or other potential adversaries in that regard. Mr president i want to bring you back in at this point japan and china and the u. S. These are all important for germany as well the changes that washington has to carry out. In germanys even natos interests. Well i think that we need japan as us close and scrum ally we see him as a partner in the alliance for motile at the relisten which is was founded by some german and french prime ministers and ministers nevertheless of what we need is a credible burden sharing a sign from the European Union<\/a> and the european nato members that we are willing to take over more responsibility from the americans in the close vicinity of europe look to ukraine look to the west on balkans to the new middle east and to libya so as have burden sharing in the u. Of the americans would mean that we take over more responsibility to become more credible on the other side this would also give the american president a signal that he is a could promulgated to the American Population<\/a> but the europeans are taking over more response an ability to ease the burden of the United States<\/a> so that they could focus more in the Pacific Region<\/a> this is very important because we we need the the of the world trade and we need to also theres free sea lines of communications and therefore it is all in one so a close cooperation with japan is also very helpful for the European Union<\/a> and giving this is really going to happen that we will see troops being pulled out of germany. Well this was an announcement and the question is when and where to if they shift these troops to poland this wont this would not be very negative because poland has a strong. Fear of threat towards the russian movements in border while ations as well as space violations and a lot of hybrid water so this would give a signal for more defense and credibility of nato towards towards russia however we expect from the u. S. President that he is discussing this with his closest ally its allies in the European Union<\/a> and in nato because you cannot shift troops without coordination with the host nation and germany since its serenity since 1900 is a very Strong Partner<\/a> and we would like to be handled all saw even and that with the United States<\/a> this is not the way you treat your close part was ok roger case of its a member of the german parliaments Foreign Affairs<\/a> committee and a formal general staff officer off the German Armed Forces<\/a> and separate haas for the deputy direct south asia program at the German Marshall Fund<\/a> in washington d. C. Gentlemen thank you both for those insights tonight. Its to the Central African<\/a> country of cameroon now and the story of political rivalry is holding back the fight against the current of iris prevention if its all concentrated on the biggest city do not often a disputed election the government has banned the work off the Opposition Leader<\/a> maurice come to all but he and his party are determined to press ahead blazing all met some of the 8 because defying the bad. These volunteers income room and getting ready to dish because big 900 prevision keats. They are not fish mind and i call b. S. Consonant ties is not a market in douala the countrys largest city. Cameras Opposition Leader<\/a> come to critter doogan is ition to hook up the spread of the current of biros. Beef you are happy to get the equipment but authorities see otherwise. The government sees these organisms show its illegal i get to meet these other 2 rides these species get one chance to do this response then the other is that any time i come or a security forces. Series or started a program to a month ago i list of a dozen people have been arrested across the country. Dispensaries who want is reached out to disadvantaged communities almost every day. 300000 kids having donated in over 15 community sioux falls. Because they come up to on a Senior Member<\/a> of the team says they are not backing down. We are worth a quarter in your despite all the rest and well continue and that was that report somebody my dad has that report youll see it was obvious that in mind of this your retarded boy up to be im not going back of course im no continuing only im a will block who we are because they need to see. And we need to do our best so there is no way to stop it. Interior minister who. Was not available on our request for an interview. Didnt you know bios is not really spread in the country we more than 6500 cases fis must we make composing it through. New positions continue to distribute hygiene kits to people who cant afford them. Not deserve i am so happy i have spent much from my little savings to buy Hand Sanitizer<\/a> and i dont even have enough money to buy food but i had to struggle to get a job or did i dont im now joined by dr mary stephen whos working as a technical officer at the w. H. O. Regional office called good evening to you have the w. H. O. What you didnt have at the pandemic is exeter raising in africa is the continent ready. Yes so we as. You do on the continent want to situation if you look at look at the Different Countries<\/a> it varies from country to country the pandemic is driven by 10 countries over 80 percent of this case is imported from 10 countries india continents so we still have some through countries that our report in less than 100 kids is small we havent seen the peak yet be continents and countries continue to enhance the preparedness and readiness capacities to respond to increasing number of cases so we are seeing countries establishing Community Hospitals<\/a> trying to build capacity or enhance capacity at the lower levels of the Health System<\/a> because given the peculiarity of assistance in africa most of the capacity if you find them at the National Border<\/a> because of these potential increase in number of cases they are beginning to decentralize to buca placidity to be able to detect 2 tests to isolate treat and also contact where is. The people that might have been exposed to positive call we include the implementation of preventive measures among the members of the community saw the issue of respiratory educated. Dont want. One we have on our desk just to see that sorry to interrupt you there but i do want to ask you this we are still talking about africa being the least effective region in the world what is the explanation behind this. Yes africa is the least affected. Region in terms of pierces in terms of deaths so the beginning of the outbreak you record is the continent that had the importation of kids this last so we started having. 19 kids by a new theory and were in guess where we boarded up most all continents of the world so before i didnt know there were already countries were already implementing into screening and some of them where quarantine trouble us for now quite a number of countries minute to detect imported keirsey guess is in the end of some of them were at the point of entry somewhere. People would inquire into minded to quarantine and they were able to limit this to the 4 dust cleared of these. Communities so in terms of the deaths we also have. A younger population and. Learns off more beauties that one tree roots tool ones chances of dying so these are some of the factors that affect what to do and the number of. Very interesting and thank you for that insight that struck him a steven from the w. H. O. In Congo Brazzaville<\/a> thank you. Ukraine is one of the few countries in the world where sarika sea is affordable and easy to arrange but the Global Health<\/a> emergency has prevented dozens of parents from joining the new born children the wrong way it has been painful for couples but potentially disastrous for Childrens Development<\/a> now some families have finally managed to be united as a correspondent because that one such family. One month and 3 days late but at least theyre together. And traveled more than 10000 kilometers by car through continent in lockdown to finally meet their daughter. She still has to get used to us she doesnt know who we are. Their daughter spent her 1st month with a carer in an apartment her parents only able to see her on a screen. You know the so sad we were crying just seeing her pictures and unable to do anything for her you just feel so helpless all you can do is wait. As their daughters birth came and went and with no end to look down in sight all people are injured elders could do was scour the ukrainian press with the help of a translation app on the lookout for some sign of hope neither the Spanish Government<\/a> nor the Ukrainian Embassy<\/a> could hold would help when they read that ukraines human rights on with women who promised to help parents into the country and jumped in their car to drive the 3600 kilometers from their home in madrid to kiev. First trip was a live in the dark we didnt know what wed encounter at the borders on route they received a long hoped for permission to enter ukraine yeah we cried when we received this i didnt think a piece of paper could make you this happy. But it wasnt enough. What we do now is not a chance and were just 500 kilometers from kiev then they told us no we just couldnt take it anymore they were missing just one document enough for them to be turned back at the Ukrainian Border<\/a> returning home to madrid with the only option without their baby a week later they were back at the ukrainian frontier after 7000 kilometer round trip to madrid and back this time with the right documents and they were finally allowed into the country other parents have been less fortunate separated from their children by even greater distances and still unable to enter ukraine how many babies are still without their parents no one can say with any confidence. That you know weve lost months of our daughters life. That was super important yes. It was actually a month of 3 days to leave it felt like a year spanish must sound strange to her she doesnt want to sleep she just wants to listen to us. Now she said i know easily. Journey to becoming a family like any other is not yet over to register their daughters birth in spain will probably still have to go to court in spain and in many of the European Countries<\/a> surrogacy is a legal gray zone now the legal illegal coronavirus lock down was just the 1st of many obstacles on that path. So we asked if its known how many babies are still in limbo as a result. Were all scratching our heads here trying to work that out but it seems that even the government doesnt really know so we heard from the ukrainian governments human rights woman who to help families like all those 20 ukraine with special permission she says about 100 families have been in touch with her over recent weeks asking for help getting into the country while those travel restrictions than place but experts say that is just the tip of the iceberg they. They estimate that most agencies here in ukraine have been advising their families to stay quiet not to reach out to the government theyre worried about too much Government Intervention<\/a> there have been calls from certain lawmakers here to ban International Surrogacy<\/a> so there was a real worry about coming out as it were making clear quite how big a phenomenon this is and i think the pictures that went around the world of those babies in a Hotel Ballroom<\/a> they really are representative that was essentially a p. R. Stunt by a very savvy director who wants to get International Attention<\/a> to resolve this problem most babies including those babies babies spent that 1st month last month or 2 in a private apartment with a carer so the picture the reality a bit more banal than those picture. But this seriously is an industry that. Sees families from across the world coming to ukraine this is not just a european phenomenon you have families from this far as argentina saudi arabia china some of those chinese families its estimated have been up to 3 or 4 months late breaking out their babies given the lockdown starts in china earlier than in europe or north america so this really is a global phenomenon happening here in ukraine. All right the day is almost done but the conversation continues online join us on twitter either at. One of me at 1. 7 its been great having your company back. To. Africa. 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