To have longer a sense of. Power. In the roundish tradition is a bit complicated especially for Classical Music so many talented young musicians. But there are not so many possibilities to write or to perform or to watch live concerts and as i have looked at from live musicians and my father is a composer who told me if its what you want to do then you need to leave. When i heard about that kevin i didnt really want such opportunity and i always wanted to to do Something Else you know to study some literature to study always always and when i saw that. You know is it what and and it was no question that im not going there. I have been on stage for 64 years now i played my 1st concert in 1950 which. I hope are to learn something in all those years and id like to pass that on i think. Its one step in a vision i have long held. Here. To have this center where musicians from all over the middle east can learn to communicate with one another through music common except your. Yeah i mean this academy is slightly different with a program to counter specialize ation in the 0. 1 percent what used to say is a specialist is someone who knows more and more about less and less. And i believe that this problem is not limited to musicians it affects all of society. Thanks. The idea started for having an academy where musicians would also study philosophy that was the that was the idea and that was how i heard of it shortly thereafter i met with mr barron by many mediately it was clear that we share these ideas that its a terrible shame that Classical Musicians nowadays specialize so much and dont get to reflect more broadly about what they do and ground themselves in the broader culture so it was clear that we could Work Together trying to remedy that and it was clear that that this was going to work. I was very interested because it was the 1st time seeing a program. More broad than just music and i was always interested in more things but never had really the time to expand or you know to really learn them am and that if they just say apply. And i got accepted for there. If. This is your mother. It has always been Daniel Barenboim streams to have an academy where students are educated. Hes waived it. Fall that he challenges every musician to acquire a universal education to be one to keep on learning and to see the Bigger Picture is to say. Thank. You greg you. Will get very big. Part in making and it makes me happy that hes responding like that i can since i dont play this for my camp it feels good. Im surprised how how much how nice the windows are i was worried about that it feels like a connection to the city which is right because this is not a. And out early next year concert hall on the floor morning here theres a holler something. Every academy needs a hole. But this is the only academy with a hole like this one yes we were lucky because frank gehry turned out to be a fan of the west east and devalued his truck was. Ok when i told him that this idea was becoming reality he said. I really want to do this this and i said mr careless because we werent friends yet again mr gary you are probably the worlds greatest architect we cant afford those things he replied how could you say that for you to be able to work for the west east and divan orchestra and for this academy he used to be i know what you should bangs my hands if he did everything for free it was an amazing gift as persecution. Of the 1st model so i did were like a smaller version of a big concert hall and daniel was lying on his back neighbors in pain and he said but frank why are you doing that what happened to those other sketches he did and i said well theyre not the pristine am theyre not normal they dont hear. You dont ask frank gehry to build a conventional concert or they no point in doing that theres no point in doing that. And they were really overalls. That was a kind of intuitive thing i intuitively made him i didnt know why it felt right for the room but i was dismissing them because i didnt have enough experience to know that. The musicians could you know could make it were. Tiny and soft to daniel set that frank gehry spur strapped to the concert hall was too traditional for his liking so it was a kind of box. The hoffman finger. And then gary started drawing that big bang spiral which became the 1st draft of the of lip tickle concert hall of the barenboim saeed academy. Its hard to believe but its true. I was all for it and ripped the page straight out of his not the guy because i. I. Live 1st year was in just across in a parallel street we were living people students from. The region and it was very exciting because we were like a small family very fast we became really good friends. Yeah and then one year after we moved here of course 25. 00 more students arrive and it started to feel more like an academy week many people all and the syria and iran 20 something people so now its a real functioning academy so its really nice to see how it feels to such an institution. To travel to israel palestine lebanon jordan and egypt to recruit to find students to hold auditions to tell them about the academy. And we have about now i think close to 80 percent of our student body is all from the middle east from middle east summit africa which is something im very proud of because that is the primary. Of the sort of remit of this institution its one of our primary objectives. Man. To her. Feet. By. My late husband every saturday and then in venom what im meant by accident after a hotel in london i believe it was 992. When he came up to me and said you dont know me mr barenboim im edward sayit. I replied weve never met but i know very well who you walk with. A lot he laughed and we talked for a while and then i said im sorry that i have to go have a rehearsal yes he said can i wait for you certainly i replied i would love to continue our conversation so. I believe that was in june 1902 if im not mistaken. We spoke almost every day almost every day until his death. Whether he was in japan and i was in berlin or he was in the us and i was in one his eyes didnt matter. That connection meant a lot to both of us. It was only a couple of years later that they began to discuss projects. First actually edward was very keen that then and visit the west bank he said why dont you visit it why dont you see how it is on the other side. That man always was thinking we have to do something for our people and of course and with that. The opportunity came for the west to become a reality. It. Was. I mean its not often that you find scholars that are so deeply interested in music and musicians that are so deeply interested in feel so free and so they had an immediate connection at that level and of course because of their backgrounds one being a by identity palestinian of course educated in an angloamerican environment in in egypt and then. On the United States for edward sayed and for bound by him most of his life he did not live in israel but he had a clear jewish and israeli. Strands in his background and both of them are humanists so both of them see the concerns. Of the contemporary middle east through their own lens as well as through the lens of a broader a broader perspective i think they wanted others to be able to enjoy this type of this type of encounter and this type of can. So that they had this shouldnt be a privilege of the few lives everyone should be able to connect with that. Man. One of the things at that said about this project is through this project the language of music that will teach these Young Students and the sand musicians to think differently they will be thinking in alternative ways and trying to break that impasse we at in now if not their generation that they will pass it on to their children and this experience and maybe so thats how i see it looking beyond seeing the situation were in always in on attorney 2 ways only. If i told you that no from the beginning i went there to have the conversations to have a dialogue it would be a life of course i went for the special musical experience but then once there i am down to ask myself the questions the good questions. Or the bad questions also about the situation there and then the 3 started to talk with friends have started to know so many things about others about the differences about and how to how to connect and hope understand the differences of the other. Get. The westminster and the final 18 Stamp Program which i grew them also as a musician and watching so closely with. Myself and one and with such an amazing musicians. The experience is unbelievable its it is the highest level love of music making. And when youre sharing tweets such an amazing musicians that truly become such great friends of yours and people that in other situation you will never meet i will never head their option to play naked on a section we dang run the internet they send me and crying and its meeting one of the most heinous financing experiences. Its now the orchestra goes on to wars from the salzburg festival to the lucerne festival of london promised to the souls of albion and berlin it wasnt like that before things were still developing in the steel. Shop in i was already playing with the divine in 2000 when edward site was still along and. He came by and talked to the musicians through them with the relationship between him and my father was the roots of the west eastern divonne s. Were so thats how it came about and the academy is basically a continuation of that idea and we say. That. We are looking at a world that has a lot of discontinuity its problems with building up walls and shutting people off and a lot of unfortunate ecard of under taking any kind of. Subversion of the critical and false offical a. D. s that the western intellectual world had inherited from the. I might get on board but music is a universal language that means the same thing to everybody working at least speak to everybody. What better way to figure out what music me its good to do it in a project such as one has the us use of the broadcaster and eventually the barber. The rock and. I swear to make music is to become one all come together and stay permanently connected. I want to from the start. Thats why theres the philosophy of i call it the thinking here is thinking there or. We created this curriculum linking the music that they playing to. Other aspects of context and content but the original subject was music and so i also feel. But as soon as we developed it into a Larger Program we realized that that philosophy was one ngo of humanity. In plato where as you are such a smart philosopher plato students i want to learn what is the human being and i want to learn is there such a thing as truth and if plato were not plato but someone else he might say well let me tell you after you die this is what happens to yourself and there is such a thing called truth and i have the philosopher know it and these are the things you need to know if you come to my school 5 times a week i will teach you the truth he could do that but instead he says there was a cave imagine imagine this cave why do you think. He takes this route why would a philosopher take the time to write so many so many details when he could just tell us were in the dark. In terms of what the musical world demands it doesnt seem to be necessary to have this broader education why is it that they should care about her colliders or cant or marks or. Instead of just playing for another hour but the potential of music is kind of limited when musicians limit themselves to technical skill and performance. We want to correct a tendency and to say youre missing the point if youre just playing it. For for for music sake so to speak theres a whole dimension that is that is lost and. I think much fast. Thinking is fun its like exercise for the brain and lots of through these texts and the philosophers we learn on an emotional levels in america and we get to know ourselves better because we ask ourselves more questions that we have a wise one to have asked. And we get to know each other because we express our views in class and on my own hand. But i can find because its hugely enriching for a musician because when you play you often have to recreate various emotions but you also need your brain to understand and analyze the pieces simcox part understood suffice to announce on the newseum. For instance lets say ive never felt lonely because ive always been around people just. Fun to find but if he speaks of deep loneliness kind of then i can recreate that because ive read about it in books or i can imagine it might make his fortune. 2. I come from a non musical family so i dont know how actually i got it i probably i saw it on t. V. Or something and i was really interested invited and i just said to my parents i want to study the violin and they are it of course they say try to find their teacher and then and here we are in berlin. 2 well. Squeeze. The ball with the fingers. First time i met i swam 1000. He came to visit another earth the conservatory and i played for him a small piece then. Off there feeling months i met him again and in dresden festival he was incredibly charming very young and very lively for you and i never enjoyed it and he said to me after me and my stroke can i play in the in the orchestra i would truly love to efile few fiame to me there he said but youre too young youre still 11 and thats a bit odd for he said if it helps i can also say im 20 i was obviously something you see and i knew that this is an element for information and the next summer i was there. We are hard not sure you man have cause most of our students are from the region regular middle east palestinians israelis syrians egyptians. Who knows all hands like the west east and began it is not a project for peace that one bring pigs this is a humanitarian projects money is where you can put is not a political project and were not trying to push any political opinion reefers opened gooses a. Fuss of immersion east does what we want is for them to learn to listen to other peoples views. And maybe even understand them without necessarily agreeing with me and for them to say. That is because i was. Working with these students who come from the middle east who would not be able to study together in the middle east you could not have. A person from tel aviv and a person from syria sitting in the same classroom anywhere over there. Working with these people has really allows me to feel like im in some way connected to the realities of the region even though im not there. And that. I find a channel through which i feel im doing something even if its not necessarily immediately visible and even if its not political activism it feels like in some way. My work is relevant to that reality. Theres so much to say about. The hitler youth books and bring them here in the middle of the square authors who are writing in ways that were seen as anti german or degenerate yeah this is the term the nazis used to generate art its a bit stuffy the surface its hard to see inside but i invite you to take a look down there in the inside the hall there and see what you see. This is something that occupies me a lot. Well in today and in jewish history and their current conflict in the middle east and how these things somehow. Are in one going conversation these particular identities and you know the jerusalem is now the place where the wall is now there is a wall in jerusalem we are here now taking their students through berlin and talking about how walls dont last. Just this image seeing students from the middle east here in berlin where survival is not an issue where identities can be negotiated where you feel free to connect with another through music and through song. Is just liberating and. And beautiful yeah c. When anyone died and with that suddenly they came to me and they said if you want this project to continue you have to be involved as a family. Because it wouldnt work at that price. They were like you know if i if we did not. Participate that the essence of the project the idea of both sides coming together when not to be there with daniel by himself. And then the project would become Something Else completely. So i thought its better that it continue the way it is because the message is spot for. Up on things. I would like to formally introduce you to more insight into who is the widow that would say need and use the name sake of the building here so the barenboim say each academy you all remember grew and read seders write so when we think of others what do you think that means as an idea. What isnt of. Their son the other side. Of this. The other was 1st used in homers iliad to describe the true shifts who are the non greeks they were the other we are degrees we are the center of civilization we are handsome and we smell good which was the basic sort of tenets of morality change in greece and the traditions are just these barbarians who live across the street and thats where the true of others enter into the lexicon of western intellectuals history and this is how it works i mean uses the term other in the context of his work in his work humanism takes on a particular. Relational they mention and not simply human ism in the sense of developing my potential. My skills my knowledge but humanism in the sense of allowing for a connection where previously they may not have been or. You know the question of a difference of human difference. And whether that notion of difference can extend to very large collectivity such as western east to orient an author. Is something about which im very doubtful theres nobody for example who doesnt believe in the idea of human freedom or Human Dignity or compassion or human for eternity or love or whatever you want to call i mean to me its much more interesting and impressive how cultures you know concepts be feed each other across what are supposed to be lines of demarcation. And to me are in fact lines of coexistence and complementarity and and carol point which is the word i use from almost from you know me and. I mean were trying to break down these walls were trying to look at the walls of ideologies and political Systems Build and find a way to bulldoze right youre them to. To bring them down to through music and art and and expression i mean this actually a fantastic story in the Old Testament about the wall of jericho being brought down but by the blaring horns of trumpets i mean thats a great analogy for trying to accomplish or i. Think. What you just learned it is how much you are similar that sam there is no. Monster on the outer side. They want want to wants. We mainly are humans and we speak about our they mean acts here and we create friendships doesnt have anything to do we face the place you were born in piecing the fact that we are all coming to do it means that already there is one thing that is common for all of us and not only music which is a big common field. The short answer is a very just seeing how in the orchestra in the t. Bone when an israeli plays a solo for oboe or clarinet or whatever every