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DW The Day July 12, 2024

Great force if we see these federal officers on our streets then we will see the trump an inspiration in court for those people in chicago and other cities where will the help is on its way. Also on the day of 93 year old former nazi death camp guard receives a 2 year suspended sentence for his role in the murder of thousands of people how is this a measure of justice that hes not published it goes home happy go back to the night dramas. The President Trump has announced that he will send federal forces into more u. S. Cities he says its to combat a surge in crime in cities like chicago Kansas City Missouri and albuquerque cities brought in by what the president has described as the vatican left but the trump deployment of federal forces already operating in Portland Oregon has been targeting protesters demanding Racial Justice and city Officials Say the feds have done nothing. Increase local ag. It stands its hard to bring the mayor of portland tear gassed by federal offices in the middle of his own city. Ted we know was in a group of protesters outside a federal courthouse he said he saw nothing which provoked this response. The irony is portland protesters are angered that the democratic man had backed his own city police using tear gas until a federal judge ordered it should only be used when there was a safety issue. For the 55th night in a row protesters flooded the streets of portland and a new chant was being sung. The feds go a clear message to the federal agents deployed by the trumpet ministration to crackdown on demonstrators. The local governor a democrat didnt mince her words this is a dub ocracy not a dictatorship we cannot have secret police abducting people into and putting them in unmarked vehicles. I cannot believe i have to say that to the president of the United States i know that oregon ians are outraged americans should be appalled but the controversy hasnt stopped President Trump announcing that more federal agents will be sent to other u. S. Cities today im announcing a surge of federal Law Enforcement into American Communities plagued by Violent Crime will work every single day to restore Public Safety protect our nations children and bring violent perpetrators to justice federal offices will be sent to albuquerque and chicago. If democrat run cities critics say the deployment is political an attempt to make democrats weak on crime and to burnish trumps image as the more an order president ahead of the november election the mayor of chicago says she welcomes a partnership with federal agents but warns against using the same tactics as in portland ive been very clear not happening in chicago we dont need federal troops we dont need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago thats not democracy that we saw unfolding on the streets of portland as a result of this federal action thats what we call tyranny and dictatorship and were not having it in chicago residents of chicago say extra police wont solve the issues facing the city they say action on gun control would be more effective in tackling Violent Crime. Well activists and journalists laura dede has experienced the action of the feds at 1st hand on the streets of portland from where she joins us now welcome to day w doesnt the white house have been absolute right to protect federal property is the white house has a right to protect federal properties but im not sure that they have a right to protect them in a specific way. The damage to these federal properties has at least in portland been cosmetic at best mostly graffiti and i feel that the response has been extremely disproportionate tear gas on crowd control munitions in directly in the heads of protesters its been frankly just over the top and extremely violent when acting Homeland Security secretary chad wolf describes protesters on the coasts and violent mobs how far off the money. I just dont think thats true at all if you look youll see that the protesters have been responsible for i believe 0 of the actual injuries to human beings on all of the injuries to human beings have been at the hands of the police and protesters have engaged in some limited property destruction its true but i just dont think thats comparable to the kind of violence that were seeing against the police i dont think that is the description of violent anarchists is accurate at all i think what you have is a bunch of concerned citizens who frankly had enough of the Police Brutality in america who were taking a stand exercising their 1st amendment rights and being violently suppressed thats where they started wasnt that theyd started with the george floyd protests. What are people protesting about now. Well i think thats and i can only speak for myself i think that these protests have a multiple to have people with multitude of Different Reasons but i do think its expanded but i think its all connected youve got the systemic racism of america which is tied into the police the history of the police the brutality of the police tied into White Supremacy tied into a lot of the. Proto fascist tendencies of our Current Administration and i think that as the scope of these protests have expanded and as the the reaction from the police and then the feds has expanded that the the things that were addressing has expanded as well but its all the same mess which is that America Needs to get its brutality problem under control needs to address its history of White Supremacy and frankly needs reform and abolition of the police what effect have these federal troops had the protests and the protests and. If anything its galvanized people on the ground 2 weeks ago we had maybe one or 200. 00 people showing up tonight weve kind of lost steam but since the feds have begun to routinely violate peoples rights and be incredibly violent weve seen those crowds swell into the thousands we had over 2000 last night and thats become very normal portlanders are not willing to put up with this and i dont see these protests dying down until the feds back down to what about these unidentified unidentifiable snob squads scooping people off the streets and interrogating them what do they want what do they want to know. Its a great question and i dont i have not thankfully been snatched ive heard from people that it was really quite generic questioning im not sure what they want in my opinion it seems to be more of a terror tactic than anything else theyre not targeting people who have done anything theyre targeting people walking away from protests people who were involved but not accused of any kind of crime to me it feels like theyre trying to intimidate people and let them know that if they show up to these protests that the feds can do basically anything they want to them so what needs to hop on that in portland for all these processes to put down their signs and go home and get on with our lives well as i said earlier different protesters will tell you Different Things i think theres a very large faction in portland that would like Police Abolition by which we dont mean lawlessness or anarchy but a complete reformation of the way that we deal with Law Enforcement in america there is no reason for armed gunman to be addressing things like Domestic Violence disputes or traffic stops and i think that what poor leaders want is nothing short of a systemic rearrangement of the way that we address justice in a way that protects and serves the people instead of as this gang of armed thugs that all too often is just brutalizing the people who are supposed to be helping thanks for joining us activist and journalist nora deed poll thank you very much. Court here in germany has given a 2 year suspended sentence to a former nazi concentration camp guard for his role in the murders of thousands of people appearing a world war 2 bruno d. Was 17 at the time hes now 93. 00 he insists he was not responsible for the killings the trials likely to be one of the last of those involved in the holocaust. A 2 year suspended prison sentence from a Juvenile Court not the outcome one might expect for a role in the murder of over 5000. 00 people but bruno di now aged 93. 00 was a small cog in the nazis machinery of killing and he was a teenager at the time he was a guard at the form of concentration camp near good danske in what is now poland from august 944 to april 945 historians estimate around 65000 people were murdered here in various ways in a gas chamber or by shooting or poison or through disease and exhaustion bruno deeded sentry g. T. Keeping watch preventing inmates from fleeing in court he denied guilt saying he needed little about the killings and was not in a position to prevent suffering but still thought survivor. Who gave evidence in the case remembers it differently. So his testimony before the court was a lie nothing but a lie because standing on the watchtower he had a view of the whole camp right under his nose as he stood next to the machine gun out and so that if anything it happened an inmate rebellion or a riot he would have shot without hesitating. It was the 2011 conviction of former camp guard John Demjanjuk as an accessory to murder at the saudi border death camp that opened the way to a string of such cases against minor figures he did not kill but facilitated the killing demjanjuk died before his appeal could be heard but the case helped to cement the view that in the context of the holocaust guards were perpetrators to the judges found bruno di guilty as an accessory to 5232 murders the number killed while he was at start off in his closing statement he apologized to all those who as he said went through the hell of this insanity but many survivors will feel that such words and a sentence which in effect falls short of punishment is not justice enough lets look at some of the matters arising from this without yacov as a Research Fellow and lecturer at the afraid rachela university yanna his book holocaust angsty examines how holocaust memory in the United States influenced a postwar west germany welcome to day w. So we have a 2 year suspended sentence and that no jail time then for acting as an accessory to 5232 murders does that sound like justice. Well i think well 1st of all good evening to you nice to be able to join you tonight. I think that if. On the face of it its in now there are a number of reasons. To not consider this you know an adequate or just a sentence the number of 2 year sounds very little but i think the court really took into account at the age of a die at the time when he served as the guards and thats one of the reasons why he was tried in a Juvenile Court and thats why the court had a suspended sentence. So i think. You know considering their overall circumstances its probably an adequate on its infancy compared to 2 other simple and similar case just ok and i want to play you a clip now i think this is a from sort of speaking to d. W. Today from 0 is director of the simon vs intel center 1st of all a journey has a horrendous wreckage in terms of terms of prosecuting nazis during the initial decades of question are many for example many of the judges themselves were members of the nazi party and they give you example there were 120000 best geishas of nazi war criminals and less than 7000 were were convicted. So that gives you a sense of how faulty justice was but when many years later now and in a sense the German Government the legal authorities made a correct decision a decade ago to make it to facilitate the prosecution of nazi war criminals by saying that anyone who served in a death camp or champloo the apparatus for mass murder like a Guest Chamber that they was used at all. Can be prosecuted even if there is no evidence of a specific crime against a specific victim motivated by racial hatred which was in till 10 years ago the standards by which thats what criminals would press it were prosecuted well thank god they changed that because its virtually impossible to prove so yeah to how would you characterize the fair way when its tammany has pursued nazi war criminals. You know i would agree on many points with that with inference there off statement that we just heard and i absolutely agree with with last comment that he made that it was a 100 percent correct decision by germans germanys courts. During the demjanjuk trial in 2011 and then another court we affirm this decision in 2015 when i was with a concentration camp guard. Of the burning was put on trial that. Those individuals who played a supporting role. Could be put on trial based on on the argument of association with the crimes and highest german fellow courts actually confirm these these rulings in 2016 and even though we are seeing you know you know it seems like this is very delayed a very delayed justice i think its still important that these old men are still being being prosecuted and being put on trial. As jim is attitudes to the holocaust changed over the decades. Yes germanys attitude has changed very much significantly over the past 7 decades sort of say since december 7th of the past 75 years since the end of world war 2. Its you know its a very long story and a very complicated process but one could say that the western money and then unified germany which you know fall out west germany and this and this kind of development you know took from its early years on responsibility for the holocaust but there was really very have that. Knowledge in a little responsibility most of the blame and guilt was put on a small group off off couple of the nazis while the majority of germans you know consider themselves as either victims or you know people who participated because they followed orders. And this was also very common common. Meant in earlier trials that weve seen or that weve that weve hearts and. We see only a yes significant shift in the 1993 when there is a lot of new research about the holocaust emerging i want to debate in many European Countries the night it states changes if it significantly and germany finally takes full responsibility for the holocaust also by acknowledging that it was a very large amount of german. Who committed these crimes and what about the way the country is sort of confronted its past the economic success built on such a bloody foundations the relatives that no one dares to talk about. He made a little bit more specific. What are you thinking about the idea im asking you whether germany has faced up to that so germany is a successful country how much has it looked at that success and said well do you know what a lot of that money was was very badly come by. Yeah i think that we. Weve seen a lot of this direct thing. Happening but also with a very very long delay or it was only in 2000 for example that large German Companies took full responsibility for quite millions off of the east european forced labor us and gave money into a big fund. Distributed company so that the form of forced laborers were still alive at the time. So you see these forms of reckoning but again with that with a very long very long delay ok thank you for joining us here yacob asked aid from the university of iowa apologies for the technical quality. China has successfully launched an unmanned probe to mask the 1st time beijing has attempted an independent mission to another planet chinas largest carrier rocket blasted off from new challenge Space Launch Center on the island of high not a mass will be at its closest point to earth thats about 55000000 kilometers away for about a month and this winter is only available every couple of years so the probes expected to read said said destination in february but it will attempt to land on a vast plain on the planets Northern Hemisphere and that it will deploy a robot to explore the planets surface for around 90 days time he says this is the 1st of many such missions. Have thought when it comes to planetary exploration after the 1st Mars Exploration mission there will also be an exploration of asteroids and a plan for a plan to cross it to jupiter as well as a mission to collect samples from mars and return to earth that were planning such Missions Time of year for the. Well dr david brownes an astrophysicist a from the astronomy and Astrophysics Group at work at university in the u. K. Welcome to day w i this sounds exciting and dangerous. Good evening it is certainly exciting and as you mentioned in your introduction this is chinas 1st independent mission to mars and as with any deep Space Mission there is an element of danger to it the 7 minutes descent to the surface of mars from orbit is notorious for failures of previous probes and about hoff of the Previous Missions to mars for more countries have been successful so this isnt a big investment for china yet so im the u. A. E. Lordstown mas mission this wake up the u. S. Launches one next week as you mentioned there your crash one in 2017 as theyve india last year why all this activity now around as well as you said miles is coming up to its closest approach to the earth and when youre dealing with Interplanetary Missions you really want to try and tie in your travel to take advantage of these close approaches if you time it wrong you can add months onto your travel time which then increases the amount of fuel you need and thats the cost of the mission and so you really want to time it around these points thats why we have this flying of 3 missions. This 2 week period. And there was another mission actually in europe in a mission to mars that was due to launch this year but because of delays theyve had to delay that by a full 2 years to take

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