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DW Reise Durch Die Holle July 12, 2024

The police in force coronavirus regulations and says he wont let corona virus deniers and right wing extremists use berlin as a staging ground for a 2nd time. The Event Organizer put out a press release saying he fears that fundamental rights are being violated not just now but also for the long term. It will appeal all the way to the federal Constitutional Court if necessary its just on. Different groups called on protesters to set up a camp and berlin the far right if tea party also wanted to participate on the demonstration cannot be banned because it might break the law law and justice must be enforced during protests i know demotes lets all do it so that some right wing extremist groups are also mobilizing to take part in the demonstrations warn observers. We are truly worried by this mobilization of foreign groups that are ready to commit violence across the country i spect form. Online there are more and more calls to drive to berlin in protest despite the ban. Lets get a break down some of the other stories making the news at this hour. 7 meyer is quitting the chinese own video app to talk to former disney executive only joined to talk back in june the ad has been under strong pressure from the trump of ministration cystic scotts ties to china make it a National Security threat microsoft at work or currently jostling to buy to. Emergency workers in northern afghanistan are searching for the survivors of flash flooding that have killed more than 120. 00 people and injured hundreds more authorities fear many of the victims are trapped in the rubble of collapsed houses some 1500. 00 have been destroyed in the floods. Police in belarus have detained dozens of protesters rallying in central mintz its part of a widening government crackdown on demonstrations in the aftermath of the countrys disputed president ial election. The august 9th polls all president s of the franco winning a 6th term in Office Protesters say the result was right. You trade commissioner phil hogan is resigning and missed allegations he breached lockdown destructions in ireland a week ago he attended a golf dinner with some 80 people sparking a National Outcry government says his actions undermined public confidence. Were back now to the u. S. The country worst affected by the corona virus along with china with nearly 6000000 cases and about 180000 deaths official advice has often been contradictory the trumpet ministrations handling of the pandemic has become one of the most controversial issues in the rob 2 novembers elections. And her sister when the corona outbreak 1st hit the us Donald Trumps policy was to downplay the significance of the virus and to ignore warnings by Health Officials in the hope the virus may just go away. Its going to disappear one day its like a miracle it will disappear looks like by april you know in theory when it gets a little warmer or miraculously goes away i hope thats true. But infection numbers grew rapidly the u. S. Quickly became the country with the most grain of virus cases in the wild and new York Hospitals were reaching breaking point. Shortly after governess started to shut down states in mid march trump was already talking about opening up the country again im also hopeful to have americans work in. Again by that easter that beautiful easter day. There were mixed messages travis advise was often at odds with that of his own Health Officials so the president continued to ignore guidance on Wearing Masks in public. And he mocked him a crowded rival joe biden for wearing one at a memorial day event and there was outright misinformation twitter and facebook took down a video clip posted by the president in which he claimed that children with their chilly immune to the virus one of trump statements in particular shocked the medical community his suggestion that ingesting disinfectant could kill people of cove it and that i see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minutes by injection. Or d almost a cleaning downs it sounds interesting to me so much of the care he later said he was being sarcastic he took. After cases spiked again in late june and july following the easing of restrictions the president seemed to change turn to Walter Reed Hospital in his reinstated daily virus briefing he suddenly urged people to avoid bars and wear masks that say if you can use the maersk. Yet the u. S. Remains the country with the highest number of infections and deaths in the world and the virus has had a catastrophic impact on the economy a recent a. B. C. News poll shows that nearly 2 thirds of americans disapprove of trans handling of the crisis despite the president s best efforts to make light of the pandemic it may turn out to be the biggest threat to his reelection. Then demick regulations front and center here in germany where chance are all americans holding a video summit after this hour with the premiers of the countrys 16 federal sates to decide whether to change strategies for testing and for controlling the virus the Current System was only brought in a few weeks ago but the number of new cases was keeps on rising theres a number of reasons for that so the government saying a rethink is necessary america wants a more unified approach across the nation and that could also mean tightening the rules such as limiting the number of people allowed to gather together in their homes and finding people who failed to wear a mask when shopping or on Public Transportation. Were back with Political Correspondent nina following this for us in the studio nina lets get back to some of the reasons why this meeting is taking place right now the reason is quite simple were facing the always him people will spend more time indoors the numbers ill be getting to go up again and so this is the 1st time that america has together with the 16 regional leaders in 10 weeks so she does feel its necessary because the regional leaders have been in control but she says there are too many Different Solutions to some of the problem look at the sitting down virtually still observing a big distance rules there between them they usually get together of course personally and in public sometimes to have their talks press conferences given immediately afterwards like were waiting for right now exceptionally long wait which indicates there might be Something Holding up a decision what could be Holding Things up. It is a Video Conference of course communication is slightly more complicated then if he sits around the table that is probably one of the reasons but its also about the details the devil really is in the details and way hearing from now correspondent who is. Waiting there at the press. The big room there with the empty chairs that weve seen so much of that shes saying that it is about finding a rule when it comes to finding people for not wearing a mask for example this is one of the big contentious issues the leader of one of the states with low infection numbers has said that he doesnt want to find people a toll and still says a minimum of 50 euro should be applied nationwide i mean just think of train conductors how do they deal with people of a train goes from one region to the other and they dont know what happens if somebody refuses to wear a mask and so you know thats been completely different rules some regions have no fine other people say ok you need to pay 500 guineas or some background whats the sense in germany right now is there corona fatigue are people tired of Wearing Masks of serving social physical distancing whats the mood in germany regarding the guidelines or you know i would say that there is general recognition that the virus is here that we are still in the middle of the pandemic even though numbers did go down over the summer and of course because weve seen the large number of people who were affected in the summer why young people so geminis death rate is still very low you know its not theres not a sense of emergency as such but there is a sense of respect we do have to accept the fact the virus is here how do we deal with it what are we going to do we must avoid at all costs to have a lockdown less supermarkets are closed its set for like we had in the spring but you know which rules need to apply so that we dont have similar figures that we had in the spring where infection numbers went up to Something Like 6000 a day the infection rate was up but the fatality rate was much lower than we originally thought were really numbers operas of 4000000 were out about over 9001000. In germany right now theres a big discrepancy there and thats one reason people are saying we need to ease off the guidelines for those who arent 100 percent behind the guidelines and we have to differentiate i think between the costs for Wearing Masks or not Wearing Masks no one wants to wear a mask when other people are not observing and not. Not paying a penalty for that so when you look over here at the critics of the government guidelines what are the point whats the main points that theyre making those who say these guidelines are not commensurate with the level of fatalities weve been seeing. Exactly that is one of the strongest arguments and theyre saying you know there is a massive infringement on peoples individual rights. To gather together in the private homes this is a massive step for politicians to make and just look at germanys history you know theyre very skeptical very extremely skeptical of authorities trying to limit you know individual freedoms because of course that reminds you of the g. D. R. The democratic. System but you also think of nazi regime where everything was ordered from so this is extremely politicians have to tread that way really really happily and at the same time make it clear that they conned risk a situation where so many people are infected that suddenly the Emergency Rooms are overwhelmed but the labs are overwhelmed and were already beginning to reach a point where measures such as the mandatory testing for people who return from high risk areas that is putting a strain on the countrys labs germany is in a good position but you know that cant go on forever part of the increase is being put down to the current increasing number of infections being put down to vacationers returning from places like new york where we saw some hotspots rising other parts of spain as well how much are these returning vacations are contributing to the rise were seeing in the number of new infections they. I think they represent the latest figures that i saw was 40 percent of new infections so theyre definitely the group that the politicians will have looked at here in this conference as well in the Video Conference how do you deal with these people and can you tell people not to travel to high risk areas this is not something that wed like to hear from a politician you know to tell me where can i go what contact and theres so many economic repercussions germany is a motor for the travel industry in europe especially the hard hits. Southern European Countries which really count on those german travellers showing up in the summer they havent this year they are suffering as well so this is an issue that isnt just about Health Travel its also very much about freedom as you mentioned and about keeping the economies in the heart of Southern Belt of the e. U. Well economically healthy absolutely and the interesting thing is when you talk about those rules they are also they also apply to diplomats for example i mean today we have the informal meeting of the e. U. s Foreign Ministers here in berlin and this rule that you cant travel to germany anywhere from anywhere you want and also applies to diplomats so apparently the foreign minister of luxembourg was really upset when he. Was put on that list by germany again that it is considered a high risk area and that he should have to go into quarantine is not something that is really healthy for diplomatic relations within the e. U. You know let alone think of this issue of free travel in europe i mean this whole concept undermines the very pillars that the European Union is stunning on economies one issue but of course you know that sense of freedom of movement is being infringed on regularly is wells and now we have the corona bonds the financing of taking on germany taking on debt to help out the corona virus hit regions in europe as well so theres theres a lot to this when the need for the regulations theres a huge back story to this isnt there there is absolutely and all of the social democratic. Candidates who wants to replace angloamerican next year when germans go to the polls again hes already said that this is something that should be considered to remain something that the e. U. Has to work with you know the common debt issues. Carona there is over holding a lot of things that people took for granted that these things dont happen or believe it of course the politicians have to react when we just look at the financial aspect a lot of people in germany dont agree with that the fiscal conservatives in the country are saying wait a minute we cant take on all this debt for any reason and now this is coming along the coronavirus ago we had the various Economic Crises before that now it corona so how much debt can we handle all the more reason a lot of critics of the guidelines are saying for the public to have the possibility to demonstrate this demonstration coming up scheduled for saturday its been called off by the Berlin Senate its going to make its way through all the instances will see what the countrys Supreme Court says if the op hold the balance and its idea but the guidelines strike very much at the heart of germany germanys definition of itself as a as a free country as a free society as a relatively new democracy 70 years after as you mentioned the catastrophic experiences with communism and National Socialism so this also brings in a sense of self definition is the nation how are we going to cope with the freedom to assemble. Exactly. Struck a really important point because of course there was a lot of people who just dont believe in the existence of the coronavirus all who want to ease some of the restrictions that were seeing in place and they demonstrate that len. Earlier this month and now this demonstration that was planned for this weekend with possibly tens of thousands of participants has been called off based on that behavior of the people one politician one politician i believe made a mistake here in berlin the senate of the interior he actually said. You guys you know hes from the democrats and he said it is justified because of course you know we have to protect Public Health and behavior seems to suggest that they wouldnt have walked with mosques again and so this is something that we cant risk at the moment this is a reason why other demonstrations have been called off not just anti krone measures demonstrations and its a viable reason what he then said was more important and more contentious he said become the center stage again for right wing extremists and so he mixed those 2 pieces are very controversially especially considering before he became a member of the social democrats he was a member hes a member of the communist party in east germany so people are really focusing on that the opponents of his decision to lock down the demonstration. Also looking at the possibility of all demonstrations nationally being not allowed until the end of the year thats something thats being taken up today as well i believe demonstrations i dont think that. That well impose a ban on demonstrations because they conned. The Supreme Court would would would have a comment that freedom of assembly is something and they have ways of telling people of telling. Demonstrators ok you can go ahead with your demonstration if you its here to the following rules then they can say if you guarantee that you can keep your distance if the amount of people who have that. Not too many to overwhelm the space where they are located. We have some movement there at the press conference i understand lets bring in the video if we could and see what i did says defense of interventions the president will get us to be in the interim ok were getting some answers as well the very end state and the hamburg state crime it was just talk to you now about the Video Conference they just concluded that ladies and gentlemen ok were live once again got a Video Conference today with the German Government and the state premiers of the federal states of germany. Since june this was basically the next conference that we were going to host and we had a summer recess in between and i am happy to say that since middle the middle of may actually the middle of march really we have confronted. The pandemic all together weve joined forces to do this and this is something that has stood the test of time despite all of the regional differences and i have to say that we have coped very well with this pandemic so far however the theres been a new rise of infections in the last few weeks and whats been particularly conducive for this spread of viruses has been celebrations parties and the mobility involved in holiday making and we take this rise of cases very seriously not least because this is a very good time of year but in the months to come as things get colder we can only assume that they will be more and more indoor gather. And we know that though rates of infection of the prerequisite for keeping the infection under control so that our Health System does not get overwhelmed and the Economic Situation is such that businesses can continue to w

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