Many fights these days and where are they on leaving. Dr wang who out welcome to conflict zone thank you europes getting fed up with beijings threatening behavior and telling politicians here where they can go and who they can talk to telling the Nobel Prize Committee who it can award and who it cant what made your government think it could push europe around like this what 1st time for you to hear that but i dont think that that was the government position or there could be a misunderstanding or. You know there was a maybe theres a lot of communication whatever. I heard from you i dont hear anything from that. Here in china i dont think so well perhaps you dont hear about it in china but just days ago the. Germanys foreign minister hiker mass told beijing bluntly to stop threatening europe after a senior czech politician has gone to taiwan in the Justice Parliament your government had warned hed pay a heavy price for his visit there thats bullying isnt it no i dont think that it was really probably and storing all right i think that you know one china policy has been. Hold and has been really maintained for the last. 4050 years and also its a basis of china establish diplomatic ties with all the d countries that have is it diplomatic relation with china so so i think country publish should. Really safeguard is one china policy and not having those official high level visit so i think its a i can stand china is not happy and. They may be the speaker may be reflect that. Satisfaction so so i hope that. This is not to be interpreted. As a china threat or anything so so that is poverty a different operations but also when you may not like western politicians visiting taiwan or chinese nationals being awarded a nobel prizes but thats your problem isnt it i mean these repeated attempts to impose your own prejudices and insecurities onto the International Community and clearly doing you any good a tour live its counterproductive while i i think that probably a country has set up diplomatic ties with china im sure they go through the theyve gone through the diplomatic establish in relation talks and they have actually already. By certain principles and the guidance so if they recognize one china policy. And then that one china policy does not. You know also reflect the off issue contact between the other country and taiwan and that should really be respected i think so if certain countries doing that china certainly has a right to. You know express their opinions as well i think that china just expressed its satisfaction and its opinion i think that should not be interpreted any more than that well if you intended a strong reaction if you intended a strong reaction from the European Union you got it because its Foreign Policy chief you have burrell code china your government expansionist or authoritarian and the new empire that undermines International Law did you really want to pick a fight with your largest export market well i dont think that china is the picking a fight 2 ways with china largest market no i mean its probably both market for both those regions as well and as i said you know there are certain. Guidelines and principles 11. 00 country is that is a diplomatic ties and the recognize one china policy and national. Wire lated or bridged and if that is happen china certainly have a right to protest and the give. In the dissatisfaction and those so his comment i think thats thats fair fair you know thats not expansionist but youre just too sensitive about free speech and free contacts because you dont exactly have a lot of it in china yourself do you know as well nongovernment think we dont understand lot of. Probably the government policy so we speak from nongovernment private think time point of view but. You are a government advisor who you are listed on your own Facebook Page as a government advisor you advise the government that we have would do otherwise i think that does does of vices too of course but the we are not the government we are not government officials we advise in think time does advise people of course but we are not the government so so im not a government Spokes Person so so so if i knew if i think im standing i can explain but some i dont know i so i i cannot satisfy you of course so you are you telling me you are surprised that the kind of language that china uses these days when its dealing with the west and dealing with other countries i mean we have we like your embassy in venezuela told those who talked about the china virus they told them to put on a face mask and shut up is that the kind of diplomatic language you think is a good idea for china to use these days well the situation youve been describing some of them havent i havent heard before but. I think that maybe there is a contest or there is there is a chinese also and a lot of attacks and. So i think we should really have a dialogue we should have a company occasion visiting i suddenly think that this pandemic has stopped. People to people exchanges and to stop the many visit and also many exchanges. Between china and our cyber war so thats very unfortunate and i hope that. We should overcome that one when pandemic is under control i think the government is doing its best and also we see that the visuals is visiting some countries to conduct exchanges of dialogue which is a great i mean we did that your foreign minister came to europe and he warned again last month about the consequences of giving awards to hong kongs prodemocracy movement if youre complaining about. Coercive diplomacy from washington on your then you try practicing the same coercive diplomacy on europe thats hypocrisy isnt it i think there could be some in misunderstanding i think on the issue of hong kong certainly i think that. Young people have some. Of the concerns of the widening. Gap between rich and poor and things like that so i think the Chinese Government has realized that it is so the they launched this great baby project so there are many policies you shoot so the young people can come to you know a great Burying Ground an area to have a warrant to have a study to settle down there so the sort of that many years has been has been noted in the dressing that but on the other hand i dont think we need a chaotic hong kong where airports is blocked and. You know bystander were put on the gasolines and thats just council was installed and smashed. Shopping not analyzed the whole expect what do you expect when china has been whittling away at the territories freedoms for some time now weve seen a crackdown on the people who led protests in 2014 we saw booksellers kidnapped and turning up strangely on the mainland because you didnt like the books that they were selling and now this new security law which has been condemned by many countries around the world as well as un human rights expert fact is this new law violates both the letter and the spirit of the basic law in hong kong and it was brought to you without any consultation so beijing now rules what i think the hong kong that is why that is why people are upset in hong kong. Walk understand the situation but i think the hong kong also needs stability and also. Order and the law of course and Central Government of course according to the basic law they have the right for defense the policy and security of all countries has a security law and china is no exception so i think that you can see now the hong home the stock market is back and that they are now prepared for the largest i. P. O. In the war or divestment are back to hong kong and. Its got in business is back to normal gradually so i think that people will understand in the long run its going to be really good for hong kong if we have these. Peace and the prosperity and security return back to china or to hong kong of course but of course. Theres always people more objectives once more accomplished more but it takes time gradually one british ruled hong kong 400 years the never give them any democracy so you can expect that. You know very very so with china of course but i think you know there are times online dumb to when you havent you have you know given hong kong stability with this new security law you simply imposed a dictatorship in a police state the un human rights experts who just written to your government arent buying the stability argument what worries them in their words is that cut tel moment of freedoms of expression Peaceful Assembly and the societe sion and the interference with the ability of Civil Society organizations to perform their more full function and weve already seen that happening havent we you talk about stability being coming back to hong kong and Healthy Markets since the new law came in dozens of keep prodemocracy figures have been detained including 2 lawmakers thats not support thats not stability thats a police state that youve imposed what youre sort of the has your interpretations but i think that. Basically you know youve been what happened in the u. S. You know you can present trouble than the law and the violence or any. Delusions or disorder so so the of course john is not perfect. You know theres no. Perfect policy but you know probably china was forced to because you you know china has to maintain the stability and the law and order there and so that all the Multinationals Companies can come back as not running away stock market account can be rebuilt and confidence can return the largest i. P. O. In the world can happen so so nothings perfect of course but this is not this is not a way that is this is a long way from perfect dr wang isnt it i mean weve seen police already the number but even the u. S. Weve seen people east reading were not talking about the u. S. Were talking about hong kong here and beijings actually under and weve seen the fundamental freedoms turned into crimes by this new security law which youve introduced and the rest of the world did you think they wouldnt notice we had a joint Statement Last month from the governments of australia canada new zealand u. K. Us saying the law was eroding hong kongs people hong kongs fundamental rights and liberties and you your answer to that is well nothings perfect but the markets are doing well well what im saying is that hong kong as. A part of china as one country to assist you know they need to also its one country one system now isnt it and one let me let me finish you keep interrupting me what im saying is that hong kong needs stability and of course. Law as well because hong kong cannot be for the last 678. Ny miles i mean there in the last year hong kong is basically dysfunctional and its paralyzed and been airport abroad. People were put under all used to burn you know on bystanders and a lot of trouble stop no country in the world with allow that and theres no people would have loved france hermie that they dont feel secure in hong kong anymore to those like little ghana doing something did you think down to one the people of hong kong would simply sit by and watch their freedoms erode and being eroded by beijing and not do anything about it. If you really think that then one you miscalculated bad all i think that. You know that you have there are certainly people you hung on. You know have different opinions of course that is that is obvious by the but also you have to really think that one is the new National Security establishment theres almost 3000000. 00 you know voted. In favor of this law so so that is that is also a fact that we should not exact but the but let let the time speak for itself let the market speak for ourselves lets let the peoples final acceptance for its the 1st of i think we should than you know theres only. 2 or 3 months from this low but lets take a longer view as you say we can see the long in fact what we see on the longer view weve already seen what that long view is going to look like because i pointed out youve dozens of prodemocracy figures have been detained not only that but police have raided the offices of apple daily one of the few news outlets that beijing doesnt control the papers found jimmy lie was arrested together with 8 of the men he was later released on bail but the damage is already being done freedoms are being torn up the basic law is being torn up and and youre having your new security law superimposed on top of it so we can see which way it is going and people dont like that and if you think the rest of the world is going to sit by and just praise the markets you seem to have miscalculated dont you because thats not the attitude of the rest of the world. Thats right and that im coming to chinas respiration well that there was there was no there is no Perfect Solutions definitely i think that. The parities of them intend law and order and also their security i think after all hong kong. You know where were having no huge casualties or life being lost in hong kong even though this whole year demonstration of violence going on so i think the government was required to quiet. Reserved on that and what we see are the the us army where they have acquired a number of our casualties already so so i think we have to really take into consideration that this is one country to assist them is the new new system nobody does it before nobody has done it before its always have a lot of. You know trial and you know touching the stone cause of the river then job so so we have to you know i mean improving this process but i think my problem the process you by and by reading back to order yeah you proving the process by arresting prodemocracy figures trust in china as i mentioned a little while ago is plummeting despite whats seen as your growing influence a survey by the Bertelsmann Foundation showed that in the 4 months up to may this year negative views of china had increased in several countries by double digits a clear majority now in the u. S. France and germany now have adverse views about chinas rise the highest figure being 61 percent in germany did you want your country to be so unpopular around the world i think that thats a problem about the perception of china. China is a negative and its got in. The more active now but i think. On the part of both china and also our war i think we really need to increase the communication for example china is doing for quite well all those k. P. I live in in terms of if you measure the countries china become the 2nd largest economy in 4 decades china embrace the globalization china is the largest trade in asia was 130 countries you have a country that china and china is no that wasnt of china g. D. P. Growth and china china is also leave 800000000 people out of property accounting 70 percent of the. War Poverty Level so they have a contribution in almost a total war but i think you know we need to really explain the well and then probably we need to have a better. Look at china because i think was on the world you know the west encounter neither be more tolerant of china if the chinese do well you know like there is obvious it doesnt matter its all white cat black cat as long as it catches mice with a contribution to the 31 3rd of the world g. D. P. 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Continent or countries or sending troops to other countries or fighting in advance like i want them to when you leave that you call for more tolerance example for example for my last dollar thats the french that the yeah but the but also you know sometimes in a 10 tolerance a 1000000 weakest locked up in riyadh socalled reeducation camps tolerance of persecution of christians is that the kind of tolerance that youre looking for from the outside no i dont i dont i dont i dont i dont think you interpret that right i think the tolerant china that they are from Development Model have a different path have a different system because we you know it was saying china didnt come virgin the china cant be you know we need a mall a diversity of this world we cant just open source run fresh and were not talking about are converging what divergent the world is complaining about your yeah human rights record continually and the locking up the incarceration of a 1000000 weak is engine jang province this is what theyre complaining about i think because this is never you know as far as. As far as i can see theres theres no hard evidence or proof. But theyd have to say that i mean there is cause china will start on its been published around the world and chinese instructions to the people who stuff these incarceration camps its been printed no matter where its my published no i dont. Read the well i mean theres a theres a theres a white paper published by the Chinese Government they were saying all of the people in this. In our school has been graduated already and you know and also to prevent you know you know 510 years ago that was plagued by the terrorists attacks all band of hundreds of 1000 lives were lost dr wang perhaps youd agree that one of the main causes of the rest of the world losing trust in china was your handling of the corona Virus Outbreak in wu han at the beginning of the year and the shocking way in which local officials in will have tried to silence the one doctor who sounded the alarm i wonder what it says about your society that when officials of the communist party are faced with bad news their 1st response is to try to cover it up that tactic lost both you and the rest of the world valuable time in dealing with this pandemic in the. And youre a suit of all a very negative a question but but what i tried as is that i think that you know the coven died when they 1st discovered in one han. Chinese authority has a report that to the show has a report out of the United States and all the other countries of course the doctors that who was of find the disease at the very beginning but but you know this is a disease never never happened in the history of mankind nobody knows about that and that should not send a false alarm as well you should really be proven and tested and also very if i buy x. Per that is really that really lethal disease and if that is actually was that they reach that point where they come to the conclusion they are in the middle of a shutdown a 10000000. 00 people city they immediately shut down 6 the bill in the hope they promised they actually you know at the chinle now its doing the best theres no single case of current locally on a daily basis for the last a month or 2 or so so in general when its done right well im not trying hard i know youre weve know th