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DW Markus Lanz July 12, 2024

A could it there finally be a chance for peace after decades of war in afghanistan. Between the Afghan Government and to the taliban again in caution with cautious optimism for a top forward. And Carriage Rides and welcome to the show police on the greek islands of lesbos have fired tear gas at migrants holding a protest to demand more permanent housing off the island the protesters are angry after spending a 4th night without shelter following a massive fire that destroyed the overcrowded morea camp the blazes have left more than 12000 people homeless the greek army has begun a rebuilding a replacement town but many of the migrants are opposed to it they say its just another trap leading to dire conditions. And. Phenomena is near the site of the wire refugee camp on at last i center were hearing reports of police using tear gas on protesters is the situation escalating and what exactly can you tell us about whats happening now. People with spoke with are very angry and frustrated and upset about the use of tear gas by the riot police here according to 3 witnesses we talked to. Police used tear gas after they tried to detain 3 leaders of the Afghan Community here and we saw them using tear gas again when we arrived here on the scene we also saw a scuffle between the afghan family and the afghan family and the police so it was a very tense situation and actually its so easy it can as collate further. Into help minds at ease what our local authorities are doing and to provide food and shelter for these refugees. Who spoke with the governor of the islands today and he told us that help is on the way that it can take longer to provide people here with what they need by i have to say that i really cannot say that the local authorities are putting a lot of effort into providing the refugees with water and with food that the conditions here are really grim just a few minutes ago we saw trucks with water arriving here on the scene and people were desperate to get in front of the avarice they ran to to get at least one bottle of water this one person was injured man broke his arm doing those chaotic and very dramatic scene and people are getting increasingly frustrated with this situation we spoke with many refugees here lets take a listen to what they had to say. Maybe and my new l. Is just 3 weeks old born in moria when they cam started burning clarence ran for their life now and they are sleeping on the roadside. Just. Im so disappointed because the European Union could have helped us after all this time its been 4 days no one is taking care of us what are they thinking how can they abandon us i dont know what theyre doing in europe you know seems to focus the. The family fled the democratic republic of congo others came from afghanistan or syria and now theyre all stranded here. Called leader of the greens in the german problem and its one of the few politicians who visit the island. This is the last chance to say we urgently need to change our asylum policy it is all about law and humanity humanity and law both its the only way we can really live up to our european values. A few kilometers away tents are being set up at an old shooting range but refugees gathered here tell us they dont want another camp like moore yeah. We need the Government Support us to be of a question maybe on the other countries you know theyve got a. Jam on the. Bed soon. To be good. To be there maybe 2 days ago we went to see the fight. And there is how many here feel their frustration leads to hours long for adults. They chant freedom and are not afraid to confront the creek riot police. Here what is the force situation for did it fugit you dont have to or little know what the result of anything and when it does. People the hour 50. Patients there are marching back and forth to demonstrate the fear and anger and they tell us were working to stay here weve kept taking care of us. We were. Right. This time everything remains peaceful but the longer understand of continues the bigger the risk that the situation could get out of hand. Now xander to make matters worse the coronavirus is another major concern after an outbreak at the camp what is being done to bring it under control. The governor of the islands told us that theyre trying to test everyone but at the same time he told us that they dont have the word about its all of the refugees who have already tested positive for the corona virus and that is of course major problem because there are still here Walking Around maybe spreading the virus on the other hand we talked to many refugees here and they are afraid they dont want to have anything to do with the they dont want to be isolated they just want to leave this island they dont want to be moved into and they can identify naaman on the greek island of lesbos i thank you for your reporting. But lets have a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world iranian a champion wrestler naveed of current has been executed despite a Global Campaign calling on iran and to revoke his sentence he was convicted of stabbing to death a Security Guard during antigovernment protests in 2018 the athlete sent messages from prison saying he was tortured into confessing to crimes he didnt commit. U. S. President donald trump has announced that bahrain is the latest arab nation to normalize relations with israel a breakthrough is part of the u. S. Administrations push for peace in the middle east United Arab Emirates recognized israel last month. In the u. S. City of minneapolis for Police Officers charged in the killing of george floyd last may have appeared together in court for the 1st time prosecutors say they should be tried together but defense lawyers strongly oppose a joint trial George Floyds death triggered widespread protests against racism and Police Brutality around the world. On mining accidents in the east of the democratic republic of congo has killed over 50 people according to local mining in geo the gold mine collapsed following heavy rains accidents are common in the unregulated mines with dozens of deaths every year. Well historic a peace talks between the Afghan Government and the taliban have begun today in a bid it to end 2 decades of fighting and bloodshed the meeting in the gulf state of kasha is the 1st time the 2 warring sides have met face to face mediators like the United States are pushing for unity but the 2 sides have a vastly different visions for the future of afghanistan. A quran recitation to start the event many afghans have been waiting for for decades face to face peace talks between the government and the taliban United States secretary of state mike compare flew to the Opening Ceremony in doha qatar and urged the warring sides to seize the opportunity. Of the choice of your political system is of course yours to make in the United States weve found a democracy notably the principle of peaceful resolution and rotation of political power works best. Democratic systems reflect the choices of the majority while protecting the human rights of everyone everyone that includes women and minorities their rights have been largely neglected by the taliban is just one of the several points the 2 sides disagree on. The use of violence as another the chair of the high council for National Reconciliation calls for an immediate humanitarian cease fire we huff come here with good will and Good Intention to stop the 40 years of blood shoot and achieve a countrywide and lasting peace will see that the taliban have long worried that reducing violence could give them less leverage at the negotiation table in their Opening Statement instead focused on their desire to include tenants of islam and any future Afghan Government in this. Request an. Abode saw its. Provisions all the whole of religion all of. The warring sides offered to dramatically different versions of a postwar afghanistan but the leaders meeting today stressed that violence will not help build. How money is future. Well for more on these historical peace talks a lets cross now to journalist alley in kabul thanks for joining us what are negotiators on both sides hoping to achieve and where do you think we might see the biggest Sticking Points the biggest Sticking Points will obviously be around a cease fire because you know the talabani are hesitant to declare a nationwide long term cease fire they have declared to cease fires in the past year or so previously the government also initiated a cease fire but this will be a major major Sticking Point and then for the government a major issue for them is sort of retaining this idea of the republic and making sure that their seats are secure because you know there are a lot of people within the government that the taliban and other groups and even people within of honest on you know might find suspect were talking about former communists about warlords about people who as young people put it parachuted in from Foreign Countries and dont necessarily understand the cultural and religious and live and aspects of the country or the languages so these types of people are very afraid for their jobs so maintaining the republic is also very important for them so these are the kinds of things that will really and that could really sort of hold up the talks right now the taliban has said it wants an islamic government that is also inclusive one of the interesting things thats going to come out of these talks is that the taliban is going to have to clearly lay out their political vision for the country what are we expecting to hear. Well this is the thing is what we here is up to them because this has been the question that has been asked of them of their supporters of other groups within the government or within the Afghan Society who have sort of similar views is that what does it mean that you want an Islamic Society because all aspects of Afghan Society are based on islam whether youre talking about the laws or the constitution or the Education System everything has to fall within the parameters of sharia and islam and islamic jurisprudence and all of these things so the government the told and finally has to be upfront and say when we mean an islamic system this is what we mean because you know for its a very in doha women work they drive they go out Shopping Centers you know they have shisha they go to cafes whatever so if theyre trying to sort of implement what they did in 1906 itll kind of fall flat because theyll be like you were just in this country for all these years where women had these sorts of rights. And now after almost 2 decades in afghanistan the u. S. Has agreed to a timeline for withdrawing foreign troops in a february deal with the taliban are these negotiations expected to produce the kind of results that the u. S. And its nato allies are hoping for thats exactly what the u. S. Wants and you know the way when it was announced that mike pompei would be coming that he replying from washington for these talks thats how people in vision his role is that he would be the enforcer right almost like the principal in a school full of unruly children and sharing that they come to an agreement and ensuring that they lay out the steps on both sides necessary for the u. S. To withdraw and for donald trump to be able to declare that he was finally the u. S. President to and a 20 year involvement in afghanistan so this is very very important for the United States as well all right journalist thank you. Well dozens of people are missing as Deadly Wildfires a sweep across the western United States hundreds of thousands have fled their homes as relentless of blazes ravaged huge areas in oregon half a 1000000 people have been ordered to leave their homes firefighters there are battling to prevent it to large fires merging at near the most populated parts of the state washington and california are also of the worst fires on eckerd like. So thats your news update after this hour up next as dr phil what with a closer look at the debate over Cultural Treasures stripped from africa during colonial. State with all the latest on our website www dot com Guy Richardson in berlin for me on the entire team here thanks for watching. Good. Im neal and im good welcome to the 2nd season of on the fence look the planet on the brink of disaster we did long indepth interviews with experts about one question how to change it up to the inside. Of. The bone bone to see if you must be one of the people. And then to look at is up to. The big. Gulf slowly when you rob us people if its in a time of Cultural Heritage then you steal the soul. And then you can enslave them. To the good old rock bottom of the stamp noticed. He didnt have them all what happened hollowed out society midtown to. It was dramatic and that wasnt even the worst that happened to the comet. The at. Mankind of least i cant walk out the soul of a people at least ethnological museums are like prison because famous it is in their prisons is it. Was a little. It was there. To play on. The banks of the warrior river on the edge of the coastal city of tijuana. Last minute preparations are underway in a few days time the most influential families into all out will be competing in a canoe race the entity. The contest is a traditional part of the annual gondo water festival. Valere and is the chairman of the festivals board of elders hes checking up on progress only after the carved wooden figurehead known as the town gate is put in place kenny events begin the. The tongue game is only put in place on saturday regime want you know some of its the very last part of the preparations on their food its not done it any old time not a traditionally its done on the eve of the event as well and its not done by any old person is if i think shows he defined object on that is was really too long. On a dollar. And a 10 k. Is not merely decorative. It is a magical object keep bought loose all sides the outcome of the canoe race. As a walker the victory or defeat depends on it love victoire the fed did up yaga the time gate contains the forces of the rivers depths laid. Open for new yorks review. And. Only. One of these ornate figureheads was looted by german colonial powers in the 19th century that has your lack of alere pay these original elders have a deep respect for the cult of the tongue and of the dollar the issues of colonial looting war and the repatriation of african art is every bit as pressing a topic here as it is in europe you chop off to get the impression that our debate here tends to remain very euro centric off option b. No one is talking to africans and asking them what they envisage what solutions they have in mind and want to sort of cooperation they would like to see here bridge is the repatriation of objects so thats. Some of which are over 100 years old what matters most of them all might they have other priorities figure speak to where not say all i am not saying that everything should be right on but if there are walls that were taken on the very hour salary conditions i think they should bear it on to their own good justification for the killing spree massacre and therefore it cannot be any just official fully functional return for the consumer attention of waterpark lives in the mold of a pair. Cultural heritage were stripped away in a brutal fashion nothing can fill the void that was left. Of the bill thats why its important that repatriation occurs. Some theres no doubt that it would help reconcile a violently fractured society. In the late 19th century german and british colonialists were scrambling for influence on the coast of cameroon in 884. 00 the dollar kings signed a treaty of protection with german trade representatives. But like preserve or oppose the treaty several months later he felt the full force of germanys military muscle when german war ships reached. Under center 21st 884 his village was attacked and torched at least 25 people lost their lives. The german consul max booth now 2 wrote in his journal the house of law is being torn down a stirring striking image we are setting everything on fire. As booty boof now took a wood carving from the house a tongue the futile boat ornaments belonging to locke preserve. When max book now returned to munich a year later he gave this tangay to the royal ethnographic collect. Todays 5 continents museum. A gift drenched in blood today over 100 years later curator Stefan Eisen Hoffa is grappling with the question of this wrongfully obtained objects ownership. Doesnt anyone else have lord since the late 1990 s. Professor prince comandante ive heard that it has been demanding its return on the grounds that he is its Rightful Owner if you have it he says shift oh does that undermine this is a town there that belonged to my grandfather i am his successor so on hard. But the germans say i must find that i am our grandfathers rightful heir. But. Please denise city in southern nigeria. Sadly in recent decades its notoriety as the hub of Human Trafficking has eclipsed its centuries old reputation as a center of arts and crafts and specifically bronze works. Not far from the royal palace of the. Street is a unesco World Heritage site home of the guild of binny broadcasters. And local artists in a tear is visiting his friend a wayne id be in his broadcasting workshop it he uses the same method employed 700 years ago. With the last wax process molten metal is poured into a mold that has been created with a wax model once the mold is made the wax model is melted and drained away the process means that each work is unique but these days scrap metal is used as well as bron

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