But peaceful also coming up the death toll climbs in the breakaway. Region as armenia and azerbaijan the leaders say now is not the time for peace talks. Its good to have you with us we begin with the fallout from americas debate debacle u. S. President ial candidate joe biden has described president Donald Trumps performance in tuesday nights televised debate as a National Embarrassment the discussion over issues including the coronavirus Race Relations and the economy quickly descended into a series of interruptions and insults prompting horrified reactions from the u. S. And beyond. Some u. S. Commentators are calling it the worst president ial debate history 90 minutes of interruptions crosstalk insults and accusations mostly from the president exchanges like this one were typical for the composition of the u. S. Supreme court and the senate to consider you should go out and vote youre in voting now vote and let your senators know how you get on are you feeling lead vote now that impact they will sure you in fact let people know his or her senator i should im not going to answer the question because for us to know where the new issue really is us is the rational left would you sure dont based on who is on your list you know this we dont you know right gentlemen is i think this is so thats one president ial we have none of so it went for much of the evening trump seeking to distract and disrupt biden with a barrage of interjections yeah people understand the proceeds from supporters watching in a bar in california appear to live it was he says our president clearly clearly established advantage over by. No questions and. He knows what hes doing about every aspect of our president s our need for the american like to send already go to fraud thats what these democrats are looking to do the socialist because they say no to god it is up to the state let the United States i think go to communism notice also that sure we stand up to fight against that. We had a drive in the battleground state of florida fighting supporters saw their man. Hes doing very good job that getting his point across he has a plan which is. A man when it comes to their his the economy around and iris. I think thats happened but hes hes doing very well on this day care. I dont think hes the right choice for the country. For years to show if you give a little in that job youre proof that hes not the right guy for the job. Several snap opinion polls taken immediately after the debate said biden won by a slim margin the next debate is scheduled for october 15th americans will be hoping they dont get a repeat performance. Are in for more now im joined here at the big table by my colleague. From our us Election Team so peter can we talk about there being a loser and the winner from that debate. It is tough i mean it was spied by any stretch of very tough debate to watch probably the objectives being the most unwatchable debate that weve seen in american history. More than trump alone has more than 70 interruptions in just 90 minutes at times erupted themselves at more than you know almost one interruption per minute and it was very hard i dont think anyone came away you know with a clear idea of what either of these candidates vision was for the country you know postdebate polls had bitin a little bit ahead the c. N. N. Poll had you know 6 out of 10 saying that biden one republican pollster frank luntz who was very kind of famous for his for his surveys of particularly undecided voters in this case from swing states they had some very clear reactions to the debate and you know to bite him they said he came across as professional restraint and compassion and president ial those are words that we have not heard used about trump a lot in in recent years their reaction to trump was crack head error get an american unhitched. So i think its fair to say that by. Right and came away from this looking maybe a little bit better but i frankly think a lot of the time that you saw a clash of innocence 2 generations where just told you how that there really revealed how much weve moved you know in the past 4 years now biden could barely understand what he was up against or or what he was when you felt it was important to list but we want to pull in one of the most talked about moments yes no president asked if he would condemn White Supremacist Groups take a listen give me a name give me a why is a problem it doesnt like it it can die out grow as a son right proud of my boys stand back and stand by but ill tell you what ill tell you what somebody has got to do something about anti fair and the left because this is not a right there is a levy i dont want your take on what the president of the you know i cant think of an easier answer for a president of the United States a country that you know please absolutely central role in helping beat the nazis for him not to be answer simply say no to distance himself say no to these right wing groups is quite a bit dumbfounding i think for a lot of people watch former president howard taft famously said you know dont write so that you can be understood right so that you can not be misunderstood and i think the same could be applied to trump in this case he did not clearly distance himself again weve seen that repeatedly after charlottesville 2016 event where he said there are good people on both sides we heard him essentially using the same type of rhetoric here and it really is were looking at a dog whistles and the proud boys very clearly picked up on that joe biden retreated screenshot of a reaction from the prop oist with one saying basically you know trump basically said to go f. Them up this makes me so happy and we saw a lot of other reactions very similar to this you know biden saying this is Donald Trumps america. Its considered a far right groups of people the old White Supremacist GroupWhite Nationalist group. You know trump has since come out and said that he does not know who the problems are and that they should stand down and let Law Enforcement do its work so well see if theyre listen to that what is all of this doing to the standing of the United States in the world. Has certainly deterred a lot in the past 4 years. Said a couple months ago that he simply cant see how were going to go back to normal even with a President Biden this is how much damage a lot of people in the International Community think that trump has done to americas reputation and you know even the corporation with his allies we also have this is playing into the hands of the appears of also china we had the editor of the global times an english language newspaper linked to the communist party who came out saying the 2 political leaders of the u. S. Obviously theyre not showing simply roll to American People how to gauge debates such a chaos at the top of u. S. Politics reflects division and society of u. S. Society and the accelerating loss of advantages of the u. S. Political system as a race in saying some show that you can hear the show 40 there is no one of the shining city on a hill its a burning city upon a hill i think is what a lot of people are saying peters always thank you for your reporting thank you thank you. President. Has condemned comments by turkey on the latest flare up in the caucasus as reckless and dangerous this after turkey boys did support for arms or by johns efforts to take control of nagornokarabakh from armenian separatists International Calls for both sides to work towards a diplomatic solution have so far gone unheeded. This mans heart of it has been shelled beyond recognition. It now resembles a number of other civilian homes in the disputed nagornokarabakh region. Everythings broken well what else can i say. Officially the separatist region lies within as a by john but it has been under the control of Ethnic Armenian forces backed by the amenia and government since 1994 fighting has now also spread well beyond the borders of the contested xyron like in this bordering town in azerbaijan and is threatening to spill into an all out war. Despite the growing death toll both military and civilian neither are mania nor azerbaijan appears ready to take steps towards pace or to boldly its a very hard to talk about negotiations when specific military operations are underway. Baby i is especially concerned about the alleged involvement of turkey which it claims has begun aiding its ally as a by shell on. There is no evidence of turkeys involvement in the conflict and there is no such name that Azerbaijani Army is sufficiently prepared to ensure the protection of its people and its territory we will not although it is. Both sides have accused the other of initiating the latest hostilities attacking civilian targets and obstructing negotiations the clashes have continued into a 4th day despite International Calls 1st cease fire. French president emanuel macron is planning to hold discussions with both russia and the u. S. On ways to end the conflict in. Maine while both a mania and azerbaijan continue to see their citizens queue to enlist in the military and join the battlefield. Have suspended the independent news outlet t u t dot b. Y. For 3 months its coverage of the governments recent crackdown following those disputed elections that coverage has gone viral the government is also making it increasingly difficult for foreign journalists to connally shows us how bella ruse is trying to stop the cameras from filming and what that might mean for the protest movement. Weeks of protests capturing imaginations around the world colorful symbols charismatic leaders. Its often turned ugly Security Forces cracking down brutally on peaceful protests and when it did photographers and journalists were there to report. People who tell you one thing time and time again knowing that the world is watching makes them feel safer. They show the outside attention acts as a restraint on the government. 6 but journalists are facing increasing intimidation 2 photographers spent 15 days in jail for quote organizing an illegal protest they had taken pictures of a demonstration an editor who published an interview in which a victim of torture named his torture also ended up in jail and tire news outlets now stand to lose their media licenses without them their journalists could face arrest at any time. Foreign journalists like me havent so far been subjected to this kind of treatment very soon there may not be any of us left here in belarus getting a new credit station or extending this thing papers is no longer possible theres no outright refusal just the same excuse over and over again the commission in charge they say called get together because of cope with this in a country where the man in charge president Alexander Lukashenko who claims to have won the disputed election downplays the dangers of the coronavirus he has said that a visit to the sauna is the best treatment for the disease. As independent media here vanish as protesters fear a future in which there is no one left to document what the government does to its opponents. Well it is not only the roofs protesters in bulgaria are calling for the reson a nation of the Prime Minister as well as early elections on the conflict zone Tim Sebastian asked bulgarias labor minister when will the government gets the protestors message were getting a lot of different messages from the protests but were also getting messages from those that are not on the bill. Actually the protests started a month ago they combine that if different messages some of the messages those messages that are for better judicial system or more justice and for fight against corruption these are messages that we hear and we do want to pursue in our politics whether i am from the opinion polls this is pretty clear 70 percent to distrust the government and the personal confidence rating of the Prime Minister has dropped to just 20 percent the lowest rate in years so the crowds are telling you they dont want you they dont want your new draft constitution they want immediate elections so why not give them to the ground. All right you can see the latest edition of conflict zone right here on the w. In just 15 minutes or you can watch it any time a t w dot com slash conflict. Youre watching the news ill be back at the top of the hour with more womans followed by the day of the sea of in. Combating the corona pandemic. Where does research stand. What are scientists learning. Background information and news. Hour corona update. Coated 19 special next on d w. In the eye of climate change. For a cause for. Whats in store. For their future to look. For can make a city to get inside. Culture. The futility of the 5 years youll straits the fault of water. That use why today i am calling for any immediate global ceasefire in all corners of the wall. Millions of people are caught in war zones the u. N. Says thats preventing an Effective Response to the outbreak. Of dog hospital country the sick. The virus spreads when tens of millions flee violence in africa the middle east and asia. In much the u. N. Secretary general called for a global ceasefire. Warring parties i say. Put aside. The silence of the. Strikes. But the world responded by buying more weapons and starting new conflicts. The pandemic is set to spark famine riots instability and civil war. Viruses we can governments and Security Forces thats allowed some rebel groups to flourish they mostly face the same restrictions their costs are also rising but they pass them on to those caught in the territories they hold still as. Tchiowa reports the response isnt that different to that of some governments. This herd is on its way to the biggest market in the Central African republic. Some 42 kilometers from the capital bangui where the hurts us sold for traders in this country it means moving from areas that are controlled by different groups. The coronavirus pandemic is an additional problem the straightest complain that many armed groups have taken advantage of this Health Crisis by living in huge taxes and then you go. Around. If you dont and we face so many difficulties in transporting our cattle from cagayan roof to the market armed groups attack our shepherds you need. Before coronavirus the rebels asked each of our heritage men to pay between the and 80. 00 euros. No theyve increased defeats almost 125 euros. They demand so much money for taxes and were all discouraged. Lighting bang he hasnt changed much for most people it is almost impossible to determine who is infected with the coronavirus or not during the rainy season people have the flu or malaria and that in a country where poverty is more torrijos it is estimated that about 71 percent of the population live below the International Poverty line men and women are fighting every day to get food on the table so far there is little progress in the country with biggest political a young activist he specially criticizes the governments money meant of the pandemic from those. Who did we were in a country where we no longer understand anything and the beginning of the coup one of i was pandemic we were told that with all of the nations that the government had received over 1000 would be a problem the taste was free for instance and now we have to pay for the almost party. Who can pay that but its a number of books situation for Central Africans. In addition to the security on Economic Impact of the cotton up on the mic in the Central African republic than 4801. 00 per person. And in the midst of hoping to measure put in place by the authorities the fight against the fire or im going to respect it in public places. Just one example of how rebel groups are ruining peoples livelihoods and how some governments are failing to keep promises lets bring in a doll hes director of the bigger institute for African Affairs has the coronavirus led to more conflict or unrest in africa. Thats a very good question would be a yes and no. Limited increase in terms of what old can be called socalled code 19 disorder is made of people because of the access to to nutrition and so on and. Political repression by government authorities on the latter you know marlons has not really a priest at least thats not what the number tell us what we believe is that massive ones can. Can happen in the future but only after putin can they shouldnt especially when economic consequences get really really really that. Theres poor management of the result we picking up on those restrictions youve said there are certain kinds of conflict that pandemic restrictions are more likely to aggravate what sort of conflicts. Especially at the beginning you have you know people are reacting directly to what the government for instance if we have locked down you know restriction social distancing you know people might not be happy with that because they they feel they can you know get food on the table as it was mentioned in. Their report before and of course has happened for instance south africa where there was a d quite you know Strict Lockdown on the other hand people might be scared that they are exposed to aristide. Open faction for instance like in the cote divoire when Testing Center was destroyed those people who. Have this kind of wild and you know limited in terms intensity all the forms a while and so more likely to happen in the more distant future and under unfavorable circumstances one specific british could be one Economic Conditions become really bad that long or all minorities especially migrants might become scapegoats i think south africa could be an example of that also in conflicts you have a risk of escalation but again the numbers do not show a strawman increase as of yet and we should point out here of course that the pandemic has tame some conflicts. Yes indeed it has although i would be a little bit cautious with regard to that as well of course generally i think the tradition also does have you know kind of power to bring people together because you know the Common Thread and they rally around the flag you know those stick together on the protesting against this effect you know wanes off the right and you have seen it also in the report that some of the people get more and more just as far do you see that are on the world politically a more concrete example of over changing africa a pandemic was in cameroon we have assessed session as conflict in the anglican part of it and one rebel group has announced a ceasefire explicitly mentioning the pandemic as a reason and as we speak now. I dont have very very good information but the government is he could lead negotiations with the rebels so im not exactly expecting that the pandemic will see over the conflict but theres a below over 2 to 2 so how do you get the balance right containing a virus knocking down and economy and preventing conflict. And actually thats a thats an excellent question maybe its the one trillion. Dollar question if im a put put it this way because it doesnt exactly you know the key challenge on the one hand you know you know keeping the virus at bay and out on the other hand you know avoid that you home the economy so lot that the medicine will be worse that you know than the disease so and unfortunately you know you want to restrict the virus we have to that we have to. Take measures that own the economy and you know what 11 idea i have in this regard is that you know africa was it later by by the virus and that of course office unity that africa can learn from other countries how do directly at this well have to leave it there thank you very much for being on the show today yeah thank you so much youre welcome. And time to answer your questions on the coronavirus heres our science correspondent eric williams. Why is vitamin d. Not being promoted more since that is the evidence that its deficiency compromises the immune system. Theres been an ongoing discussion in the medical Research Community for many months now about whether or not vitamin d. Or more precisely a vitamin d. Deficiency could be playing a role in covert 19 outcomes lots of people dont get enough sunlight to produce sufficient amounts of it themselves which is why claims have multiplied that supplements of vitamin d. Help against sars scotu theres clear evidence the micronutrient is important to healthy immune system function in other words to how susceptible you are to infection in general a recent study from the university of chicago which a step further looking at patient records the Research Team they are discovered what they claim is a clear retrospective link between vitamin d. Deficiency in patients and covert 19 risks the problem is is that to prove it we still have to carry out what are called randomized trials where where we monitor people getting enough of the vitamin and those with known deficiencies and then track the groups to see what happens over time whether there are differences in how many people in the cohorts contracts kovan 19 and if they do how severe it is another issue though is if vitamin d. Really does prove to be an effective preventive measure what doses of it should people take taken in excessive amounts as a supplement that can cause kelsie on to build up in your blood and can can even cause organ damage so. There are potential dangers along with the upsides but but in general the experts agree that taking a supplement in safe amounts recommended in National Guidelines cant hurt your health and it might help especially if you have been known by them and he deficiency. Finally in his general audience on wednesday pope francis said we need to heal the world from the suffering highlighted by the pandemic he said the corona virus has exposed the great inequality the brains in the world the inequality of goods Health Care Technology and education the pontiff called for policies that reward participation care and generosity rather than indifference exploitation and special interests saying a fair and Equitable Society is a healthier one. Put imaginary there so we will be able to regenerate society and not return to socalled normality because this normality was sick also before the pandemic alert the premier that up on the mia the normality of injustice inequality and environmental degradation. Thanks for joining me for this kind of 1000 special and then fizzle and see you next time. Says. Conflicts if you dont hear a lot about saving your feast days but some more than 2 months fall feria compounds financial corruption and see government demonstrations by just this week from sofia to speed so such a bus minister and social call just 5 years she continues to suck the coots mistreating its most Vulnerable People they should its human rights. Conflicts the 4. 100 small feeds in my converse. Where i come from raj your remains an important continent soft transmitting new and form ish and when i was young my concert was drawing huge and come from. The war prominent people most people would god not on drugs to see if. 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