To require a presence on ukrainian territory without crossing the threshold of village evans also on the day at dw mates, the family of a hostage being held in gaza. Hes a Migrant Worker from time. So of course its a lot of pressure. I cant rest. I cant even think about my son all the time. Im constantly wondering how he is. I was told that they only get a blanket and im sure they dont sleep because they are so anxious. Im wanting to know and welcome to the day emmanuel macro has faced uneasy reactions from european allies after he refused to live sending west and Ground Troops to you, cried. The french president , made his remarks to the meeting of old and 20 european leaders in paris. The conference was contained just a show of support for ukraine, against russias war of aggression, your credit and president for loved him is the landscape i attended the gathering 5 video link crimes and launch the on the defensive. As it contends with slow western arms delivers the rush of superior numbers on the battlefield. Here is the french president speaking on monday. It was the one that quoted soon as we are convinced that defeating russia is essential to security and stability in europe. We are determined to do whatever is necessary for as long as is necessary, and that is the key point for me this evening. This is the 1st part of our discussion was basically about doing more. And there was a broad consensus that together we should do even more even faster sondra. Ill go there. Its actually pretty easy. There was no consensus today on sending in troops on the ground as in an official accepted and endorsed way. But in dynamic terms, nothing should be ruled out. We will do everything necessary to ensure that russia cannot win this war. For the funds president does seem to be out on a limb on this once following his speech allies, including britain, spain, poland, the czech republic, and joe make o distance themselves from the idea of committing Ground Troops that to you cried where the war has now ended its 3rd year is jim and johnson, my own actions the im the authority october discontinued, we obviously discussed. We used to arrange for the support of this type of data by its not enough for a very good debate. We decided that what was agreed from the outset desktop also applies to the future on to and on the, on the done under hesky leaf wagner, namely that there will be no Ground Troops mixed us as kind to know soldiers on ukrainian, sorry to stop. And ill send there by European Countries or need those states some stop and well go from not the stop and alternative sick pattern. So lets pick this up with benjamin. Tell us whos a Senior Research fellow. The German Council on Foreign Relations is co. Busy most recently of germany is failing ukraine and your law school, which just appeared and the publication foreign policy. Welcome to dw, thanks very much pleasure to be in a manual macro. And that makes these bold statement why what it could be so easily and publicly contradicted, well, well, it looks like microns out on a limb, in public, behind the scenes. I think its a little more complex. I mean, lets be very clear. This is part of operation unblocked. Alas, this is about a coordinated move by allies behind the scenes to try and get germany moving in the right direction by widening the debate. Oh, really. So this is, this is about. So we can, because as we saw in the eclipse that, that the german and the child said was quite well on diplomatic. They was, there was no hedging. That was, that was a, no, no, you repeat intrigues. No, no boots on the ground. But this is a why the move to try to sort of pushing towards that, i think so. I mean, i think of themselves as faddie. He clearly understood he was the target of thats. Thats why he was pads so, so straight talking. But what we see is Germany Blocks and what its doing because the chancellor still hasnt said even that ukraine should win and is not supporting you crying to win at the moment except bass. Im, we have these other comments from these other european states, not as a unequivocal as, as mister schultz, but all of them say, no plans to do this, which is what you tend to expect to hear when diplomats to say no. No indeed. I mean that being diplomatic thats standing with with gemini, to an extent, but what is done is whitening the conversation about what could be in peoples minds and what is possible, which makes some other steps look more reasonable along the way. Sending. Taurus, for example, does europe actually have the, the capacity to helping ukraine though . Yes, it does. Absolutely. The several things we could do. The danish Prime Minister was very clear at the munich security conference. The own i lies, could send more. They have stokes, they could send to, you kind of should send them now. So i can, we can seize russian assets and actually make russia pay for its own defeat rather than putting the whole button on our tax pass. And we could be stepping off our Industrial Production a lot more. And crucially off shots could say that ukraine should win. Well, if we can tool us, if we can step up the Industrial Production on while were doing that, its a very good question and thats one best address to the town. So re, um, the best analysis of this suggests that all our shots is not keen on the kind of change to the well, that would be brought about by ukrainian victory. Hes hanging on to as much of the world of yesterday as possible. Really it is your, your, it obviously seems to be old aimed at life show. So low Left Shoulder is, is Holding Everyone else back. Yeah, i mean, less, thatd be misunderstood. We do analyze other things as well. But in germany, that is where the blog is at the moment is where a lot of other allies see the block is being, theres many allies in the Baltic States and elsewhere. Who would like to go a lot further, a lot faster. So just to be clear, because over the last couple of my Biggest Issue is that the thoughtful ukraine has been the delivery of arguments and, and, and everybody says, well, the orders have gone in. So its just difficult, at least unless were on a war time for things to, to fulfill those. Youll say that that, that, that could be a policy change. And that could actually change. Yes, we could move closer to more time. So think suddenly, we could also stop exposing the 40 percent of shelves that we produce within the european union. Go outside the block and not to your crime. Thats been an awful lot of steps we could take. Im trying to unblock that. Politically. Is the name of the game at the moment. Think this all sounds very good with the things that theres always has very trumpia. And he wasnt a big fan of, of, of germany and its, its the defense policy. And we had Donald Trumps former National Security adviser on the program yesterday saying that he was sure that under 2nd trump presidency. Mr. Trump would tell our president , trump would take us out of nature. All european leaders do you think, reading or indeed preparing for such a possibility. Theyre not ready for it and then not properly preparing for it. Choice the absolute it should be yes, its not a question or form of withdrawal from nato necessarily know. So still, how strong support in the us congress, but any kind of war fighting decision goes through the white house and the selling of the kind of uncertainty, the trump would undoubtedly bring brendas brendas law security guarantee, uncertain, and its not kind of uncertainty. The pointing is really scale that exploiting, especially when need to text weakness and thats what were signaling right now. Okay. So im, its the oldest this talk of, of, of germany, a dragging its a, was 2 years ago we had a law shelves, and im seeing this, this site invented this turning point in germanys defense and Security Policy and response to russias invasion. It was sort of a massive increase in defense spending, improve defense capacity. So what have we seen 2 years on . Were seeing germany and basically as bad a geo political position as it was 2 years ago. The change hasnt gone far enough. It hasnt gone fast enough, its serious to incompletes, even on the times that was set out. And its, i would say dangerously inadequate. To be quite honest. Germany is trying to plug about a 450000000000 hole in the funding for the bundle with a 100000000000 funds just for one thing. Its not sending ukraine or it could. Its not actually helping to remove the biggest Security Threat we face in europe and the still Big Questions about its energy policy. And its like i could only model because there was serious geo Political Risk from dependence on china among other things. So i dont think thats right in been that has, that has happened to us extent. I think we now need insight. And then the one that does that she chosen about whether germany and its not lies. Want to set the agenda for the world, or whether theyre happy to be dictated to finding types of. Okay. Id like to get you perspective now other related story because of this policy discussion on falls and your data also. So i told him point in the last couple of, of days a short while ago, the ongoing problem that approved the admission of sweden tomato. And so with that process now being completed, we very much look forward in the days ahead to finalizing everything and bringing sweden into our alliance, our shared alliance. I think its only underscores yet again, of the strategic debacle. That pollutants invasion or re invasion of ukraine has produced for russia and nato alliance. That is both stronger and larger, with the exception of bulk, send one to know and now sweden, baldwin, sweden bring 10 days so that the alliance doesnt already have territory that the timble and territorial times that improves nights. I was ability to control the baltic sea. Certainly to bring strong well equipment of drink and it sends a very clear signal that the alliance is together and that its, its basically a good move for the free. Well, this one, the other thing it will bring is the ability now to deploy its troops alongside canadian troops. For example, in latvia, to augment the fluid presence that is that which helps to fulfill natos mission of deterring russia and determine that by denying russia access to Alliance Territory next. So is set. Now, where would you say that there are no other . And the bits on the edge is looking to, to join the ukraine. Shed been nice so um, thats absolutely going to be actually a goal of the alliance. We need a stable Security Architecture in europe. We dont need a consist of pressure and we dont seem to have. So gonna happen yet, but dont roll it out because this is actually the only viable solution really for European Security, credible security guarantees. What you can needs to reconstruct for refugee is to return to your crime with the future, and we need it for our security. So this is why your opinions really need to step up their act properly set another in the shadow button, but shift the button for European Security to themselves and have that institution expressed by an expansion of nato. Fascinating analysis. The thank you for sharing with us that benjamin tell us from the German Council on Foreign Relations and thank you very much. Israels ministry comp time you guys have asked has been testing its relationship with its neighbor egypt. The 2 countries have had peaceful relations for the 14 years, and colorado is often mediated in conflicts in the region. But egypt is now one of many countries urging israel to halt as planned. Black ground operations in rough, the right on the border with egypt sits or alpha. Its crammed with that on 1400000 people. Many displays from other parts of the gods us true. Conditions that a dire which shortages of food and water. Egypt has one quick suspended, be speedy with isnt. If its ready troops, i sent it off, or egypt has had useful relations with israel since both countries signed the down b with the codes in 1979. I would gladly let me, but you can president of the c, c. U has been vocal in his condemnation up as far as operation in his war against homos. It fits with that as the display of the gods is having nowhere else to go. It could lead to intense pressure on them to escape the enclave into egypt sign. Ive been into a situation keitel wants to avoid egypt along with several other countries. Fear is red, wouldnt allow them to do it on on the terms of the 1979 b strategy design. Ive been into a lot under gossip border, a Demilitarized Zone since the october 7, the tax egypt has been beeping up. What does it go to do with more groups because of frontier with is there any consent . Easy also appears to be building a fortified area there. Die roll for the past decade has been creating a massive buffer zone as part of that security coordination with is there a part of that has been the destruction of tunnels from instead of creat into gaza, which we used for smuggling on other issue, the testing relations between the 2 countries is a narrow demilitarised strip of land that separates egypt and gaza, known as the philadelphia caught it all a suggestion, but its value Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu, that he wanted is ready to take control of the quiet or has angered chiral. So despite the cutting dense relations between instead in egypt, any a den by cairo to walk away from its b as accord with israel, could prove very costly. Egypt economy is struggling and it would risk losing billions of dollars of us aid it receives as part of the 1979 treaty adult. To sign on the co is director of the middle east and north Africa Program after lunch and pasting times a childs in house. Welcome to the w. Id like to start with that thats a egyptian threats to walk away from its 1979 pace. Tracy, be these right . If the roof or operation goes ahead, i guess my 1st question is into pause. What effect would that have and why is egypt is so concerned. Thank you for having me. Uh well, um egypt just um is not making this threat lightly. Um, it sees the displacements of palestinians as very dangerous as a precedent. It doesnt want to see the repeat of the 1948 displacement of palestinians that took place and as a result of the war at the time. Secondly, of course, the displacement of post indians could of, of course, plus challenges for each of the own security. And the instruction government is using the threat of breaking a diplomatic ties with israel ties, but egypt has maintained since 1979 as a leverage um for the Israeli Government to take egypt position on post and in displacement seriously. We have seen, however, that the israel is determined to take a right to to, to apply which so far only if i could put it that way. And not even the heating advice somebodys closest ally at the United States quite often is the threat from egypt likely to be taken seriously by israel as well. Since egypt has made that um, uh, threat, very public and has been quite persistent and pressing this avenue of escalation there have been revived, talks to get to a temporary cease fire. And egypt has been a very important interlocutor. Mediator along side cuts are in the United States and in paris, but also in the region in order to get to the ceasefire before ramadan, which begins on march 10th. And so it does look like the carrot and stick approach if you will, might be getting some traction. And the mediator is including you as president joe, by the end of the candidate that they are getting close to an agreement, which is a very positive sign. And what should we read into israel is the use of ramadan, most of the festival as a ministry deadline, as well. I think its a everyones deadline, not just israels deadline. I think its important to achieve a ceasefire as as soon as possible. Its important obviously to release hostages, but above all, to also address the massive humanitarian disaster thats taking place and gaza with so many lives was over 30000 at this point a ceasefire needs to happen yesterday and delaying it to the start of ramadan. I dont think its a positive or productive outcome for, for all sides. But ramadan is seen as a deadline because there are deep fears across the region that this war could escalate. That violence could spread into the west bank and history slide where these really government has not allowed muslims access to the lots of mosque and during ramadan and the time of a deep religious, a meeting for muslims across the region. Being deprived of the opportunity to pray at the alex a mosque would be a very dangerous and could it lead to violence as well . Okay, thats totally clear. Thank you so much for joining us in the outline. Not for us talk to us, and im fucking you from chatham and when her mouse carried out those terror attacks and is right on the 7th of october, it didnt just, carolyn kidnappers, right. Is but other nationalities, 2 of those, the biggest grew best from thailand and the official site age ty, Migrant Workers are still being held hostage, dw, a scale masses went to band dont. And northern thailand for this report in just a few centimeters, take up a whole hour. How making carpets with the neighbors helps coming to them. Now, past the time, sick with worry now hasnt been able to work since how much terrorists kidnapped her son. More than 140 days ago, the only visitors to her tailor shop these days, all local officials, inquiring about her situation. So of course thats a lot of pressure. I cant breast i cant eat. I think about my son all the time. Im constantly wondering how he is. I was told that they only get a blanket and im sure they dont sleep because theyre so anxious. Im wanting to know one way that like many ties, her eldest son was in israel working for a farmer like the 1000 bureaus. He owned a month help the family back home company. Let him now bought this tractor for the family farm with the money her son sent. Sh