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Well, i will also say about the fact that we asked a question at the beginning of the program, we asked you about this, the russia africa summit became for putin, there are three options for answers, as always, successful or unsuccessful, your option, please answer on youtube, eh, at the end of the program, i will match the final results, now i can only say that 230 people answered , join in, and 73 percent consider it unsuccessful, 19 and have their own option nine percent of those viewers who watch us on youtube so ihor cholenko political scientist, head of the center for analysis and strategy mr. Igor congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes congratulations mr. Igor thank you very much for joining todays program aa before i ask you the first question i i want us, together with the audience, to listen to one direct speech of vladimir putin, as long as he is still the president of the Russian Federation, and what he said during this summit russia, africa, but not about africa. We will talk. We will talk about russia and ukraine. So lets first listen to putin, then ask you a question. Kyiv got its independence and independence with the collapse of the soviet union on the basis of the declaration of independence. In this declaration , it was written in black and white that ukraine is a neutral state and for us it has a principled meaning. Why did the question start to drag . Ukraine it is very clear to me that this is what creates, in our opinion , a fundamental threat to our security because the advancement of the infrastructure of the military bloc that is aligned with us actually native to our borders is not acceptable, gentlemen, i understood him correctly, although in the end, can we understand putin correctly, but in this case, let it be so or correctly, i understood that putin is already this denazification, where militarization is a long time in the past, and he is now trying to at least somehow find to crawl out of the situation that he drove himself into and now the main thing for him is a neutral state and status god is with him denazification or demilitarization the main thing is that ukraine is not in nato thats right well thats all well, one of the arguments of the socalled ied in ukraine at the beginning is the same, but it is repeated. We remember even before the start of a largescale war, how putin was offended, as if no one listens to him and no one wants to give guarantees that ukraine will remain neutral. But again , well, if putin mentions the declaration on the state sovereignty of ukraine, then again it was not written there that ukraine is a neutral ukraine, it was written there that ukraine strives to become neutral, but before that , first of all, what is putin trying to do to reincarnate the soviet union. Talk about ukraine in nato, we understand that ukraine is at the beginning. We remember the history with nuclear weapons, how we voluntarily gave them up, what we received. Yes, now we understand that these were not security guarantees, but nevertheless we believed in the budapest memorandum is what is written there, and russia is one of the guarantor countries. And what we received later, we received, for example , the situation in crimea in the mid 90s. Many more moments and the energy war in the 2000s , that is, wherever we were in contact with the Russian Federation, it demonstrated its aggressiveness and, uh, started the revolution of this hybrid war, which grew out of we remember the incendiary of donbas, the annexation of crimea in in the 14th year and already a largescale measurement since 2022, the only thing Vladimir Vladimirovich putin has to care about today is himself and his own environment, which have led to such a state now and to the rapprochement of ukraine with nato , see also returning to his statement about the neutral the status of ukraine. What would he be satisfied with . Although it does not suit us. We know that we should be in nato i am the only guarantee of our security, but conditionally and purely hypothetically, if according to some model of the former finland and former sweden or to taiwan, we conclude an agreement on security guarantees, lets say, with the United States of america. The United States of america gives us a lot of weapons, which, for example, like in taiwan, in taiwan, in which we will be able to defend ourselves from putin. After that, if this happens, he what is he going to say just like that . Well, okay, well, we just wanted a neutral status, let there be a neutral status. I have great doubts that putins rhetoric will change because he will say, well, if ukraine is not kicked out, then nato will not be there either. Approached our borders, although, again, we can see that before that they had a common border and that actually expanded after joining finland, but hmm, it will just be russia saying in rhetoric that the west continues to flood ukraine with these weapons and accumulate them here here is no longer the regime as it should be, there is this whole story, all this rhetoric, so the russians are simply getting time to heal their wounds, to accumulate their own forces, and will go again after a certain time to encroach on the territory of ukraine again, so i dont think that here uh something from russia will change, although, again, there is rhetoric, there are real actions, and i think that all the same they will now think whether they are worth the goal, because even the largescale war from february 22 showed that their calculations were absolutely wrong have shown that today russia is not a world power in terms of military missions and of course they will now have to do a lot of homework to strengthen themselves , and our task is to enable them to do this. The treaty on great friendship and cooperation, such as the one i mentioned, we now need to simply understand the existence of the Russian Federation in its current aa format. This is really an existential threat to ukraine in general, and therefore our task will be well, of course, not with military methods, but with hybrid methods to do everything to democratize well , of course, it is possible to reduce it to parts. Today there is everything for that, in fact, there is all the basis for this putins government to crack, it is already cracking. And do the russians themselves understand that the war is now going on already on their territory, taking into account, for example , the drone attacks in moscow yesterday, and, for example , how reputationally dangerous it is for putin and his posipak, well, taking into account the fact that russian propagandists have repeatedly received a direct order not to cover this topic, and this just shows that putins reputational weakness is really higher today than ever why because we we understand that in russia they had a certain unwritten social contract, an agreement between citizens and putin and his entourage, and they give up part of their own rights and freedoms in exchange for security and in exchange for some social benefits and so on, but today putin is really failing the main aspect of the issue of security and this, all adequate people even in russia understand that this would not have happened if putin had not gone to fight in ukraine and that the most important thing is that they are still afraid to talk about it openly, that is why we see in sociology a really High Percentage of support Vladimir Vasilievich and so on. Nevertheless, it is clear that the closer it gets to the elections, the more the situation will weaken. And by the way, i want to note that prigozhins trip to moscow on saturday showed a lot. So we are now already seeing the further history that allegedly perhaps there is an agreement somewhere that is falling. But no, he simply showed that within russia today the fronde is already Strong Enough against the kremlin entourage, who want to at least get the postputin regime, or seize power now and turn russia in the other direction although i dont know where it can be returned if russia fell to the bottom of the Mariana Trench oh and let them stay there on that day, but since you already started talking about prigozhin last week , the selfproclaimed president of belarus Oleksandr Lukashenko does not know how many times in a row i went to putin, and he said this in particular about prigozhin and the prowar activists , lets listen first. Well, ill say that they started to push the bagnerovtsy to the west. Let us go. Ill tell you why i need the west. Well, we go on excursions to warsaw and rzeszow, but something unpleasant happened to them in rzeszow when they fought under artemovsk, er, they know where the military equipment came from, and they have it sitting inside. Rzeszow is a problem. Of course, i keep them in the center. I would not like to send them there because they are in a bad mood and they need to know what is happening around the union state, well , obviously 5,000 wagnerites will not go to rzeszow or warsaw, but mr. Games, in your opinion, how dangerous are these 5,000 wagnerians can be precisely for the polish border. Well, in fact, they carry a certain risk, because it is clear that i do not think that they will start entering in columns, that this will be the first stage, nor is it obvious that they will try to get to poland, uh, as refugees , illegal refugees, such as odinaki and already on the territory of the European Union to form some kind of foundation for further actions , i dont think that in fact the question here is what you are talking about now publicly and lukashenko, i think that after all this is a question from the valais corridor to the corresponding kaliningrad oblast, it was clear that putin now wants to show aha , but they didnt let them go to the supposedly russian paradise there, the territory to konigsberg, there are trains and everything else, but i ll show you right now. They know how to walk now. To start the stage of entering in columns, then they can simply engage in banal chatter, which is actually what the evangelicals and the cadre Russian Military, including on the territory of ukraine, were engaged in now, therefore it is really a great danger and it is a danger today directly for nato because putin is simply trying to take the alliance on a weak footing and see how it will be the application of the fifth article of the washington treaty because, by the way, putin will put putin in a certain trap and attack him because precisely from the point of view of the fight against terrorism, the fifth article has already been applied we we remember that it was involved after the explosion of the twin towers in 2001 by the United States of america precisely from the point of view of combating terrorism, so this is just such a window for the alliance not to directly engage with russia, but in a direct conflict but to oppose the wagnerites, therefore, i think that this story will really continue to develop, but we still need more preventive measures now to apply in general to allow the wagnerites to carry out certain provocations on the territory of the country now, do you think lukashenko has enough spirit to allow the wagnerites to do such provocations . Well, for example, in the area of the sovan corridor er, taking into account the fact that he lacked the spirit and, thank god, er , to use his army at all, or, for example , the russian army at the beginning of the invasion of ukraine well, on the one hand lukashenko constantly balances and tries to show himself as such an unofficial checker, where we see that on certain issues this is really happening, but on the other hand, putin is using lukashenka very clearly now and lukashenko is paying the debt for 2020 for remaining in power and this whole story. By the way, the nuke has nothing to do with ukraine and the fullscale war, because there were a lot of changes in the constitution and the preparation of the legislative one, it was stretched over time. That is, this is a separate track for putin. This is a provocation for belarus. It really prepared for a very long time regarding nuclear weapons, so i think that lukashenko. Of course , he is now trying to sit on two arrows again, but the further the war goes on , well, it is really difficult for him, and on the other hand, it can become certain here an ally in contrast to moscow is beijing, with which the lukashenko family has an unofficial joint business and production on the territory of belarus, and it is precisely from the chinese that they can influence here as a certain balance in these efforts of putin today through belarus to attack nato countries and their respective eastern the flank of the countries of the European Union but again, everything is developing dynamically now, we see that putin now listens to beijing, and on the contrary wants to show his autonomy and his geopolitical greatness, but in fact its just a horror, and maniacality is 100 maniacality. And of course there is horror this is 100 . P ihor please tell me this is such a strange visit of the minister of defense. Although not the minister of war of the Russian Federation , serhii sheyga, to north korea, where did the minister of defense meet with the leader of the most closed country in the world, obviously not obviously, i think that they went to negotiate. He went to negotiate for the supply of weapons, in particular artillery and ammunition, although they also saw drones there. How do you think they could come to an agreement . Well, i think that in fact north korea has really huge reserves. Now it seems that there is something in general there and about 200 artillery shells mm e samples spoke, that is, not only the supply of 152 mm of the soviet sample , but also other types, because it is clear that it is the Russian Federation that emphasizes the ee artillery during its offensive now feels a terrible hunger for ammunition and they need help and where can they find it in the most totalitarian state on planet earth today, which again characterizes putins regime but nevertheless, for a country of 25 million people, which is north korea , there really are a lot of ammunition, because they were preparing in the case of a team to attack aah south korea, it seems that something there seems to be released almost in a day, it was planned to release simply crazy quantities there, Something Like 500,000 shells. That is, there were really crazy plans, and this is for comparison, understand aah at its peak in the direction of bakhmut, the russians fired about 60,000 shells at us per day, that is, the scale is really serious. But nevertheless, i think that even if they agree on this artillery, ukraine still has its own agreements. We also remember about the million a and we have already received 1. 7 million natotype projectiles, they are now actively used on the front lines, especially in the southern direction , and also in the bakhmut area, so i think that russia will not win here, thats for sure, but it really causes some concern in such negotiations that now there is another question, but a very short answer, but here we saw on the video that they showed some samples of north korean and drones that are very reminiscent very strongly reminiscent of american drones. Even russian drones are used, some of them are called cheremukha, but it could be precisely these north korean drones stolen from the americans because they were stolen from the americans, they were unsuccessfully copied rather than after all, we dont know what kind of nighttime there is, and its 15 seconds. I think that this can really happen , but their effectiveness will be far from the american one. Todays program for your expert answers. It was Ihor Chalenko , political scientist, head of the center for analysis and strategy. I just have to see how you answered the question that we asked ourselves. Then russia and africa became successful for putin consider 19 . 73 consider it a failure, and your option is 9 . Your option can be read in the comments. We currently have 1,306 people watching in a special ehm channel for the program ee world during the war on youtube. Thank you all very much. 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