What, what, the program sees everything, the Program Based on Artificial Intelligence gives you a hint on how, which troops to attract, where is the best place , where to display the units, which weapons to hit and so on, this is being implemented, but i think we will get to the point where it will be fully integrated and will come in, but this is a very interesting thing, and in fact , there are enough of such moments when technologies work and the exchange of information is accelerated, it begins to work on what a decision is made faster, that is, according to neuronetworks, that is, of course, then it is, well, you understand that it is necessary to this , you must get used to this, you must adapt to your own as soon as possible, but this is such a thing, it is not always standard, that is, it is always you, that is you will always have certain questions. And will it calculate correctly here or correctly here it will be like this, but in any case, everything works and thats how it looks to me, they talk about the networkcentricity of this war, we can use such systems and to approve so uh using already ready someones опыt е experience excuse me something i have a thought that turns on and turns on for some reason russian words do we use someones readymade experience or do we generate generate our own do we generate something unique now both that and the other that is look, uh, there is nothing in nature in general, the conduct of hostilities and warriors, no matter what they come up with, we cant, we cant come up with it, you understand the basic Strategic Principles, of course i do, but we can think about how these Strategic Principles can be better implemented and how to implement them implement better and what can help us in this, that is, you understand that a flanking operation is a flanking operation , will you enter from the flanks with buckets, will you enter with people , will you enter with equipment, will you enter with ships or planes, but there is a nuance, but yes, but actually saying and we are approaching this, that is, what the New York Times wrote there, the day before recently, about the fact that ukraine is starting to apply its experience to ukraine , rejecting the experience of the enemy, like them or not , we simply adapt the experience of nato to our conditions of the realities that are emerging and the realities are such that on the condition that this war is already like this it happened after all it is basically an artillery war the use of drones is important we used it and in this we are unique i. E. Adjustment of fire and this is our uniqueness the enemy it took over us i. E. What now our enemy is doing everything that russia is doing, now they are actually taking it from us, and this is a very important meaning, because they are talking about it now, well, if not all of them, then almost all of them. At the beginning, russia was lagging behind. Then they started to learn and we have to learn they said correctly , what are our chances now . Projectiles for example, do you understand that it is only now beginning to cover them in a certain direction from where they have aa developments they write , you understand, they also analyze the conduct of hostilities, their general staff also writes methods which then from this analysis and the proposed solutions in these proposed solutions, they offer something there, look at ukraine, there is something, it works like this, and they agree that a year ago there was one situation, 50,000 shells per day shoot squares, who is there, how, what kind of drone , what system are shown, now they found our society, yes, they now came to the point that stop well, there are shells, but they became less, the order came in a more so weighted x to treat them as it means you use them and they began to implement it later and in principle they still have an artillery advantage, especially in some directions they have an advantage in projectiles hmm and we understand that a but they began to modify to find a solution in what way lets say yes and including studying aa how we do it, well, they cant fully compare it because we do it but they and we started doing it earlier and in a different way. But at the same time, well, i think that they are still lagging behind in this , the only thing they are progressing in is the use of lancets, there are those who care for them , ask the owners how they themselves they say no, i didnt predict and suddenly the lancet is quite effective, well, its not for nothing, sometimes they get into wooden models. Yes, but someday they get into our real equipment, where did they get the lancets from . Weapons that produced these are their reconnaissance eagles and the kronstadt weapons asked for help in connection with the sanctions, plus they began to be intercepted, but they also work, and these intercepted the initiative. And i think that not without the help of some gray black schemes that they brought them to bypass the sanctions and began to stamp them while protecting these ammunitions, on the one hand, this is a problem. I really agree with you, its clear, on the other hand, there are even examples when they are actually shot down with automatic weapons , that is, there are also such, but another question what is being studied now, we are talking about drones. And there is another component, such as antidrone combat, this is a separate component, it includes fish, radio Electronic Warfare , radio electronic intelligence, which make it possible to detect possible antenna installations. Where does the signal come from in order to understand that there may be operators there, and that to do at this moment strike at them by trembling. Extinguish and do not let them use it, and the second is simply to shoot them down well, the third its just hmm, its better to use a lot on them, but you see, were still here. This is the fundamental base that im talking about using means of Electronic Warfare, electronic intelligence, it will increase the effectiveness of the application of our drones for sure and thats it for now. If im not mistaken, if we talk about drones, we can say that we occupy leadership positions in some developments. An article about the fact that ukraine has primacy in the development of drones with Artificial Intelligence exactly at the moment when the rap starts to act and the drone loses contact with the operator uhuh , i dont know there, the algorithms are turned on and the drone continues to perform its task on its own, more about that lets talk but in the means of Electronic Warfare. As far as i understand, russia is now in the lead compared to us. She has an advantage. Yes, they have to do. We can only destroy their fish. Do we have any developments or do we have to develop something . Well, we have Us Development in in principle, we have a school of robots, just in this regard it is quite good, and we understand that something was damaged during the attacks , we understand very well what it could have been, we have a system that is produced in ukraine, bukovel , other systems that are precisely designed to suppress the signal the enemy, but there is still work to be done, that is, Pay Attention, we often Pay Attention to the drones there are others and we hear less about it and this is important although we have them, we have them, we also have another one, we hear about it , we talk about it, and we also have systems rap we have us we are jamming, we also have radio electronic intelligence working, all this works, that is, it is actually quite developed in our country, but there is something to work on, believe me, there are those developments that were and worked on it spark in the structure of ukroboronprom, others are now raising it i think that we are capable of becoming leaders given the experience that has been since the time of chainmail, which has become infamous for this for other reasons , from a technical point of view, it is a beautiful thing. We saw the border areas of russia, their airfields, we would record takeoffs and so on, consolidation, and so on. That is already important. Well , other means, that is, here we have prospects. I think that we must. And how to counter the enemy developers of drones and the israeli harpoon yes, 1989 the 90s, so that you understand that on the one hand, bplatsi something new , on the other hand, before this, they were engaged in this, we had strizhi, well, the soviet ones, you remember in english, thats it, thats great, that s it, it means, its the development of such drones which would act aimed against the radars of the enemy and his rugby is also a way out. I think its a good way out and its cheaper than the same harmy missiles , which are not always possible to launch , use and destroy, so absolutely you said. Volunteers in the complex i think that well, now i see, you see, there have been changes in ukroboronprom, the former already Ukrainian Defense industry of this change in the ministry, and i heard encouraging lets put it this way , the words of minister kamyshyn about the fact that there is an understanding that it must be one of these plates exactly well then i would build three things, but now in fact drones yes and sea drones are coming in general here it is the first country very here ukraine very much judging by the result it is the least it is very so very advanced we are the second after surface and air drones it is means of radio Electronic Warfare of radioelectronic intelligence and thirdly, this is what is needed , shells , no, not that production has increased now, that we are actively using trembita missiles yes, and we are waiting for peregrine falcons, others, others to fly this a the rest and the rest are already there gradually, we are ukraine, a country that is known for its planes in the world and its missiles, can state corporations join this arms race in a good sense, and where, in such a case, on what platform can state Companies Potentially meet and, for example, volunteer organizations and they, well, look, we, well, i will tell you exactly what a glider can do, is it true or not . Is it possible . The question makes the question really painful, because you know why, and especially about antonova, but i also remember just two or three years ago, before the fullscale invasion, he spoke on the air about the fact that, you know, in my opinion, thats not the case. Something is happening in our concern and the management must probably change, not because i have any personal ones , i dont have any personal ones, you see that now there is an sbu investigation dbr and they are leading a trail and why am i like this aa lets say it reacts because it is an extremely powerful concern and it is a shame that it has suffered such a fate because and now look at the base there is everything you can do there what you want without pilots of course what you want right put in place the management that will start it all and i dont see any problems i act with volunteers its very simple you sit down at the table and say i invite representatives of volunteer organizations all the rest want to join please lets go together with the projects you want do you have a copyright that you want or a patent lets go we will discuss how we will interact, that is, no state. We are not going to talk about it, but we will provide production capacity, funding that the state can provide, uh, everything, and lets go. That is , it must be, you understand, a big one of serious approaches to the fact that the system was closed , so special decisions were made , they thought that it was possible to be selfsufficient. I cant say, you understand , well, if there was a smallscale invasion, i think the analyst contract for the ministry of defense would be fulfilled by antonov. It is serious for me now to update and change the approaches, first of all, to the leadership in management, and then it can work. Listen, i have heard so many stories why it may not work, but we do not have a population. And what is our situation . But it doesnt work like that, but its simple and thats all, and another important point is that its easy to communicate with the military and establish communication. In what sense , what do you need to do . This is absolutely and this and this must be an interaction between the ministry and the Defense Industry and stateowned companies that are included, that is , the state in this whole situation, the state as an idea. Here is the problem. Look. We have done a lot. Hmm, lets say with our armed forces and Defense Forces due to the fact that the territorial Defense Forces appeared, others, that is, a large number of volunteers, they came, they integrated you know how much ive heard and why its impossible to change it and there are instructions and so on, but there are people who always try to change it absolutely yes and here i am absolutely i see on an example how it can work you just have to take it and do it differently i i dont see it today. Please tell me that the same thing that can potentially be done with antons is also true for pivdenmash or not partially. Yes, of course. Well , you understand. Look, pivdenmash is a slightly different story from which point of view, because if you will talk about the production of rockets, it is necessary to involve people, but it is clear that there are still certain types of developments , what will they be . You understand that they will concern the relevant countriessecrecy, which according to the legislation we have here, there is a role for the state, will you allow it . Because , but all i will say is that in in principle, uh, pivdenmash, but if you touched on kb luch, lets see, for example, one and the other are working , some have already introduced approaches, lets say the newest in management, approaches to management, and they have gone there and exhibitions, everything, everything, everything. I mean better and the neptunes went into service. There, er, it means the antitank complexes that stugna and others supply, others also partially started, but the complexes of other missiles there and so on are a bit more complicated. Well, not quite , although they were already on the way out, that is, i think all the same, the conditions of management approaches to changing these visions and the development of this model they must be changed , that is, before that, i will say that there is no country in the world where everything seems to be as transparent as possible regarding the production of weapons not everyone can come to your office, the results. Yes, when we talk about certain developments that can be used there and what , well, absolutely, absolutely the personnel for this, ukraine has the personnel for this building, and this and this, and it will start and maximum control over it, who needs to control it, of course and it will get on the rails, it will work absolutely, well , for example, there are surface drones. Look, they are already at the exhibition, the position at the exhibition went absolutely, this is an industry that starts almost from zero or absolutely from zero and already achieved, well, huge results in my opinion, and these results are visible in the news, what is called, and on sometimes on satellite satellite images and so on, and ukraine can become a large maritime drone state , lets say so, the prospects are very good , we can export technologies but we need to understand that constant update update update there and there where the update is constant why because today the professions something can get to the enemy if it is not destroyed by itself so if it is not excluded time and time again they look, they have already started doing something primitive, there is a tree made of plywood and so on. And it is still primitive. If you cant do Something Like that, copy it, publish it, look for ways to counteract it, you also have to prepare for the fact that the enemy can think of ways to jam them, not just destroy small arms there by kinetic impact, and so on. That is, it is a constant work now in the world and work in in this field, you are constantly working on what you need to think about, as aptheists, how to constantly constantly change , for example, heimers, gemelarez. Look, we started using them effectively as much as possible here, once the enemy began to change the trajectory with his fish, we started having problems, while the developer is not updating now, and it went again so are the others, that is, we must be adapted to the fact that this is systemic work and it does not end when you have ready Technological Solutions , adopted it, you supply you supply supplies for the 20th century of the population work that goes on constantly and then there will be a result of course as far as communication is concerned and this is important uh, did you hear about the news that the pentagon will hand over to us those starlink terminals that cannot be blocked means there slowly ilona mask what do you think about this it will lead to some advantage or i dont know there they definitely sterilized definitely uhuh look aah even the Communication Systems that are on the battlefield of the use of drones and so on how is it ensured in some places it is a starter and it was a lever of influence on us when there said the same stalins mask here we will turn it off for you here we will turn it on here it is not possible here it is possible this is a safe protected connection that allows these to be controlled and actually access to the outside world where in the conditions everything is muted you understand and that is why it is important and it helps our drones constantly and one more question, where did biker go, ah, the baidaktar, it was actually such a surge , and now there is nothing, he is actually in service, and i think that there will be new ones. Jet engine are we a horse or other models . I think it is possible that we will adopt something if it suits us and the military says that it is ok for them. But i think that it was simply needed at a certain stage of hostilities. Some other models began to appear their function, that is, it is precisely and very important psychological influence absolutely and of course that just today i saw myself as tomorrows song writer yes ot is known which so so so so that means i just remembered a very good song and in principle he performed certain functions well, he uh as far as i think, it should also be improved in the direction of making it less important for ppu means, its plus is that it flies high and sees far, but the minus is that when it flies high, it sees far , it sees enemy ppu systems, and for example , look, ill just explai