Judah and in ukraine they said, well, its great news that the chinese have joined these big negotiations, but we see that beijing continues to play with the Russian Federation because uh, they had a joint expedition by ships to alaska, now we see the minister of defense of belarus and russia, and against the background of the lousy visit to gd, it looks like the entire defense uh, the chinese machine is still coming, the leader of this machine is not coming to ukraine in order to support ukraine and in belarus to russia eh well, you know about gyes i already said then that it is not necessary to exaggerate the very fact of eh coming to the chinese eh representative on this forum eh you see in us for some reason eh it is very often a form of conversation over the city, he came, sat down, listened and left, yes, formally, it is good, but did he change his position, the same thing, we now have , in the case of this minister of defense, and calls again from the side china will only come to russia when china is a little hurt and you you know, i am very happy to state that the United States of america is starting to hurt china a little bit, i mean the decision that china will no longer receive necessary technological curiosities , novelties of technology, that is, everything that it is vital for him, so the chinese economy will gradually but relentlessly feel this, moreover, some very significant, important investors have started to withdraw their capital from china. And this is the second bell that china should also analyze. They will understand what continuing to support russia will cost them very, very dearly in the literal sense of the word, but then it is possible that they will Start Talking to putin in another language, so far it does not hurt or not very much, but what we have is that the chinese minister of defense is not coming to ukraine to help ukrainians, ukrainians, but he comes to belarus to help an ally. So, all of this fits into the normal logic of people who trade principles , trade values, but in the end e they will have to answer later why they did exactly this way, i think that the answer for them will be quite difficult, because the aggressor will still have to pay for the help of the peace formula that the ukrainian side talks about and the peace formula, which they call volodymyr zelenskyis, this is, in principle, the formula of defeat for russia, because what a peace plan or peace talks can be on the part of ukraine only in the case of the withdrawal of Russian Troops from the territory of ukraine, and this means that the withdrawal of Russian Troops from ukraine will mean for putin his collapse, that is, well, this is the formula for the collapse of putins regime according to yours, or should we not still promote the topic of the formula for putins defeat, or is the very word defeat in the context of putin causing certain reservations in the west, that is, the west wants russia to leave ukraine, but er, such a total defeat that putin can suffer after withdrawing his troops from the territory of ukraine, and yet the west is not ready for this , because what will happen next with russia, what will happen to the Nuclear Button, and who will this Nuclear Button go to, and what will happen in general, or russia will not be divided there into separate republics or countries you say about this, well, show me. You are right. The formula of many western politicians is very simple the victory of ukraine and not the defeat of russia. This is cynicism of its own, so to speak , at its highest level, but it is a fact. And we have and we even have people in the Us Administration who this cynicism has been practiced since the beginning of a largescale war, and we even know their names, this is mr. Sullivan and , well, at least, his colleague, so to speak , in this workshop, cia director burns, both big connoisseurs in quotes by the Russian Federation who still cannot understand in any way, although they studied theoretically and worked practically, that this country cannot be made democratic by definition, but they probably wrote some scientific papers at some point , believed everything and still believe it, but it affects politics, including that of the United States of america, fortunately, there are such leaders, truly leaders, as secretary of state winken and defense minister austin, who clearly appeal to what is needed in the National Interests of the United States, but this struggle and this struggle its going pretty seriously. And this is only the top of all these two groups, which are actually growing down there with numerous assistants, advisers and everything else. So this is not a great pity for the reality of our time. Its the same, arent there several leaders of the leaders of even the Political Parties of the coalition who believe that it is necessary to reconcile with russia at the expense of ukraine , including yes, now something is demonstrating certain leadership qualities, but its time from time to time they are again hiding behind the United States of america they will give er tanks we are going they will give missiles we will give and so on and so on and what does this have as a consequence in ukraine it means that new hundreds of thousands of deaths of ukrainians are our blood but for them this theory they are thinking and maybe we will still come to an agreement with putin , therefore, unfortunately, the situation in this regard is rather sad in my opinion, because instead of providing everything at once, they give us a teaspoon each, mr. Volodymyr, mr. Volodymyr , there is still very little time in we are left what to expect from mr. 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Change, the following footage may shock you , live news from the scene of events, and kamikaze drones, political analysis, objectively and meaningfully, there is no political season, exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front freedom frankly and impartially come to your own conclusions together bereber is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atp tv channel. I welcome you. My name is Khrystyna Yatskiv and i am glad to see and hear my copresenter aidar poganzabaeva, whom we are now joining and there is re. Congratulations to you. Glory to ukraine and we will start with you as usual by reflecting on the latest news concerning our native crimean peninsula, which is still occupied by us , informational reasons for it have increased in recent weeks and, to be honest , finally they do not exclusively concern the persecution of the local population political repressions, repressions, and finally, they concern real cotton in the territory of occupied crimea, the logistical problems of the russians , which are accumulating and appearing, which they essentially want to eliminate somehow on the move. It is probably from the logistics of the enemy in crimea. We will now begin to remind you that vasyl the kid, the head of the Security Service of ukraine talked to his colleagues from cnn, opened the curtain, what happens periodically with the kerch bridge, he said that the thrones he is being attacked with are the development of the Security Service of ukraine. Finally, we can see a little more in the details of this device, it is very effective, as we understand it, none of the private Companies Participated in the development, they are called themselves, it is still very poetic to me in some sense, and so far, as we understand, neither the barricades nor the boats of the type guarding the kerch bridge can do anything take action with these drones. When they need to, they achieve results. In addition, when we talk about enemy logistics, we do not ignore the isthmus that actually connects the mainland part of the ukrainian south with the temporarily occupied crimea. Its about the excavation of armeniansk, of course, about chongar, lets remind you that at the end of june, the Defense Forces repeated this success in chongar at the end of july, and then it was confirmed to us since then, and bridges in the chongar area, both railway and automobile, were being repaired. Today, we have a message from of the socalled minister of transport of crimea and the head of the association of Cargo Carriers and forwarders of the republic of kazakhstan anatoliy tsurkin, as they said, the traffic was restored in the previously agreed terms. Quality, but it is clear that the logistics in the south of the enemy may be somewhat eased, we hope for another blow from the sa our defenders have the strength and means for this. How did you see the crimean picture this week and the week before as a center for yourself . Put well, first of all, i am also very happy because we saw in person these magical boats launched by the Security Services of ukraine. In principle, i guessed what it all looks like, but to see it was very good, the only strange thing that uh, such cadres give uh, first of all, from abroad the snake to ours, but that well, thats the choice of the sbu no, thats, well, thats simple yes, you know, thats the tradition of other americans. They always give theirs first, but i have absolutely no complaints, so our sbu decided that it would be more effective for the world. Like a sensation, this type is good and good because they did it and it is more visible to them well, i want to say that well, the class is new, because the sbu showed that the sbu is working well, i think that she has always worked on this, that is, the same you wont make it there in a month. Yes , but the fact that there is such a level has reached such a level the production of these drones, then listen. This is absolutely marine language knowhow, military knowhow, that is, i dont know to what level they are absolutely, well, means that have no analogues, but i think that it is so simple, uh , no country in the world has ever done this to fight without our own fleet against which it does not say when we talk about the lack of a fleet, we have the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine , by the way, they joined some special operations with the involvement of these drones, not but definitely definitely the russian size of the russian fleet, they are much more than the scope of what we could operate on. I had to talk with natalya humenyuk, spokeswoman of the Operational Command south, who gave a little detail about what is happening with logistics now in the temporarily occupied crimea with the occupiers. Come on, lets listen. If we really work fruitfully on the section by cutting off the transport arteries , there is actually a ferry crossing, but also here, the sea on our side has been artificial for several days, they do not give the opportunity to use it as a proximate logistic artery, and the route that remains 17 it is already so overstressed that with the deterioration of the situation with the further deterioration of the situation with the crimean chingar bridge and the genie bridge, the connection of the ferry pontoon crossing in this direction , this route can stop at all, that is why we are talking about the fact that they are worried about how their logistics are currently arranged and in addition to military needs indeed, their humanitarianism is important for supplies to the peninsula itself, and there the situation of humanitarian measures is fuel. It was very interesting to watch how the russian gauleiter and occupiers assured in social networks that in crimea does not have any problems with fuel, meanwhile, our eyes and ears in crimea say that the skyhigh prices, first of all, and secondly, you will not find them everywhere, but they burned out, as the russians and propagandists say, including when from among this soothing soothing rhetoric, everything is fine, there is enough fuel, suddenly a message is fired oh , they brought fuel to crimea, meet there now, everything will be okay , er, well, its actually a demonstration story , do you have any information or understanding of what is happening with the Energy Capabilities of peninsula and how much it affects peoples daily life, well, im a very conventional energy expert, but what they smoke there is normal lately, that s for sure. That is, its some kind of misunderstanding , and i think that they will continue to smoke even better, of course they will outages are a one hundred percent guarantee of this action of the ukrainian army, which is attacking the entire crimea for the time being, simply from all sides and in any way, and not only the sbu and the air force show that there is no place in crimea that is guaranteed to be protected and not a single object actually exists. That is, we ourselves, thanks to our defenders, we ourselves did not notice how crimea became a battlefield, in fact, and what is there. So far , there are no units of the ukrainian army, it is only a matter of time and i will certainly not reveal the secret that uh, our b is preparing for everything in order to force uh, water obstacles to others, and training is taking place, including abroad, and you mentioned it. Of course, i did not remember the ministers last name, yes of the socalled transport of the socalled republic of crimea the socalled russian film. There is no need to remember, in fact, let his wife remember his name if she is, but then later he may find someone else. Well , to hide, i think the most interesting thing would be now. Well, yes, a conditional interview with this person with this socalled minister. I think that the only logistical issue that interests him is actually how to leave crimea at a time when it will be necessary. I think that he can be one of the few occupiers who knows exactly how to evacuate from there i think he already bought a boat just in case maybe there was an agreement with the strata in a circle or something else. And i think that they will not escape in a very organized way, and when all these eh. In principle, i dont envy them, but im musically determined to stay in everyones place until the end, because uh, the nutribunali , that is, for uh, the place is reserved, and i think that none of them, and we ll talk about the kolovrats today, none of them are from these people will not escape responsibility they think that there will be nothing for them, some even there pretend to be patriots, offended by some people who were wrong, but we have a normal memory. I think that we will remind them of everything, uh, another interesting, in my opinion, trends. I recently in uh, the crimean in public occupations of this type, they draw the attention of the public to the fact that the liquidation of explosive objects will be carried out. Collaborator kryuchkov regularly informs about this that the adviser to Laboratory Assistant aksyonov, in principle, the locations he observes coincide with the cottons observed by the last uh, the last weeks, that is, when we talk about oktyabrskaya stary krym , free uh, for example, we understand what happened there, that it was the affected warehouses with ammunition. There are certain things that need to be disposed of, so to speak, but in these lists there are other settlements for according to my observations, some of them are in the leninsky district on the kerch peninsula. Well, for example, the village of barley, the village of a bondarenko, and you are only a few of those that i mentioned. Explosive objects to actually be evidence of all the places where they flew because the occupiers very often do not recognize if it is not obvious cotton, they keep it somehow hushhush or say that everything was destroyed by drones there, missiles and so on, ours are also in no hurry to give us information about it for their own reasons and then we see that in many locations in the crimea, the ammunition that went flying is being disposed of, or it could be ammunition from the time of the Second World War that is dug up periodically, but this happens for real rarely since the time of the first world war, of course, since the time of the napoleonic wars. Yes, no, our people see everything, that is, crimea. He has eyes and all this cotton and all their consequences are absolutely clearly known to us and known even more to the military leadership. That is, they can say that anything about the socalled mr. Kryukov, among the socalled there , i dont know aksionov. Well, i think that the only thing that mr. Kryukov has to hunt now is whether the aktion will take him into a rotorcraft or not. Or yesterday and more and no problems in fact for him there is no crimea, crimea actually seems big and it is really big and a big coastline, etc. , but in principle crimea is like in the palm of your hand and it is absolutely clear, every place can see uh, our your your intelligence and the intelligence of western countries that Exchange Information with us and the main thing all this is seen by us local residents, among whom there are a lot of those who are not just there watching or waiting. Logic and not notice it well, maybe there is an obligation not to notice the ee action , it is an obligation to notice konstantinov there too although he has already purchased real estate outside the crimea and they are all ee they are there by their duties to notice but you are normal people sees everything, and in principle, its the scoop. And im for savka. I remember, you dont remember. And i remember that when something was confirmed by the authorities, it was certain. All of you said that means everything will be, that is, if someone said that vodka doesnt end with worms in the factory there were about the same as kerchensk bridge and in general the queue for the city of kerch is very symbolic, it is the last queue for the soviet union and it ends, this is what i want to say to our friends and our enemy. By the way, not everything is in order with the kerch bridge either, and they are ready to open, then close, then it operates in a limited mode er, hes joking again, Nataliya Humenyuk says that its as if they periodically put him on air , that is, they smoked him and then aired him. Of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol, igor ponotovnym, in particular, we will try to break down into absolutely specific answers a large number of questions , in particular, from the residents of the crimean peninsula, what awaits us in the event that i refrained from, er , any contacts with the occupiers, in the event that i, er, took a prorussian position in the 14th but changed my mind and is ready to rehabilitate in 2023,
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