Of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol, igor ponotovny, in particular , we will try to break down into absolutely specific answers to a large number of questions, in particular from the residents of the crimean peninsula, what awaits us in the event that i refrained from er any contacts with the occupiers in the event that i er took a prorussian position in the 14th but i changed my mind and am ready to rehabilitate in 2023 well, we will definitely discuss many other points, stay with us, there are discounts on exick 20 in pharmacies, podorozhnyk to you and savings Taras Shevchenko resists his words on the chevrons of the defenders of his ideas, the hearts of millions of free people, his lines in battle songs at the front and in the rear fight against the formula of our victory august 2627 shevchenko is waiting for you in morintsy for the she. 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M. 00 replay at 12 10 my tank driver dad was my sniper, he stood so well that not a single orc could sneak up on our positions, he even received an order, and mine knocked out two enemy tanks and destroyed an entire warehouse of ammunition. And my dad served in air defense and shot down missiles over kyiv, finally i can tell about it, cool. We continue our program together. This is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel. My name is khrystyna yatskiv, my cohost is aidar murdabaev , aidara, as promised. He is already in touch with us tonight, igor, we congratulate you. Glory to ukraine, there are a number of important questions that deserve to be explained , because feeling the deoccupation of crimea peninsula, local residents ask what awaits us. Each of them has different circumstances. Each of them had Different Reasons for not leaving the territory of occupied crimea all these years, and one way or another, we understand that 9 years of occupation is 9 years, it is not even a few months of occupation two years is a time during which, if you remain in place, i do not imagine how you can avoid actions that would not be qualified as possible collaborationism, and even we are not talking here about a law that has been passed in ukraine, but somewhere even a moral and ethical point of view that is why sometimes it is a little difficult to talk about the fate of the residents of crimea with the residents of mainland ukraine and e. P. Igor lets try to understand what activities, what types of activities on the peninsula are considered collaborative, for which actions a person can be held accountable ah look, first of all , we need to move away from understanding that some categories fall under collaborative responsibility, i. E. Some professions, some er, occupied positions there and so on , criminal responsibility in us is individual and er, for example, one teacher can fall under collaborative activity, another teacher cannot. That is, we should not think in categories. For example, all teachers are collaborators, and all plumbers are e. There, the housing of the operating office is not collaborators. E. E. Persons whose actions fall under the scope of collaborative activity in our country are clearly provided for in article 111. There are as many as seven types of different activities and different actions that face collaborationism. The problem with regard to crimea and this article consists in because the article was adopted in the spring of the 22nd year, but unfortunately it did not take into account the longterm occupation of the crimean peninsula, that is, for the most part, it was, in my opinion , aimed precisely at discouraging ukrainian citizens from the territories that were occupied after the 22nd february after february 24, 2022, i apologize for discouraging the desire to cooperate with the aggressor , we discussed this for a long time with the peoples elected officials and various human rights organizations, and everyone was afraid that in fact, if we formally approach this article, then mostly the majority of the residents of crimea will fall under the influence of this article, but time, in principle, everything puts us in our places , we developed such priorities with the help of which we were able to single out those activities that really fall under the scope of collaboration example ee with the most controversial, what is contradictory, what was the rule ee 4x4 of article 111 of primudin, this is the transfer of Material Resources to illegal armed formations ee and the implementation of Economic Activity, it was the implementation of Economic Activity that scared people the most because according to in fact, every crimean businessman who pays taxes, who receives permits, licenses, etc. From the Occupation Administration can be considered to be carrying out Economic Activities in cooperation with the aggressor state and its illegal authorities, but we have built such a priority for ourselves that we are the participants in criminal proceedings there are only you businessmen who voluntarily and directly cooperate with the state occupier with the Occupation Administration and armed formations, i. 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We are talking about when the businessman supplies means for Video Surveillance to the fsb or when other services are provided, the ministry of internal affairs of their republic of crimea and so on, that is, when there is direct cooperation of this kind, when businessmen supply for the fulfillment of defense orders, supply some products there, the armed forces are disbanded, and so on, that is, in principle, the Security Service for itself took it to work and we made such a filter so that we do not have cases where there are formally private dental clinics that pay taxes worn out to do this in order to survive er so that no one i accused them of being collaborators, although i will repeat myself formally, these actions also fall under the elements of a crime, but there is such a concept in the criminal code as insignificance, that is, although the activity contains signs of one or another element of the crime, it is due to its insignificance and due to the absence of socially dangerous consequences from such actions, this action is not considered a crime, therefore, for ourselves, we have developed the priority that i am telling you about. Appointments to leadership positions in the occupying authorities are collaborationism, all appointments in Law Enforcement agencies of the occupation authorities are collaborationism, there are public calls to deny russian aggression, calls for aggression, and so on and so on, this is collaborationism propaganda in educational institutions is collaborationism and so on , well, that is, year after year, no one changed the article, a certain Judicial Practice was developed, a certain privatization was established by the Prosecutors Office, and therefore the crimeans who, er, simply did business simply we lived as we lived before, there is nothing to worry about. Only those who cooperate directly with the occupation authorities, were part of this Occupation Authority or Law Enforcement judicial authorities, or who too actively expressed their prorussian positions publicly, i know aidar, i know you there is a question that concerns the first thesis of kupan igor noted that we will not judge by profession, but by the activity of a specific individual, nevertheless, how to deal with journalists eder, tell me a little more so thank you for the opportunity to ask this question directly to the prosecutor, mr. Igor, here as journalists. Well, in my opinion, it is a little easier than other specialties, because there are people who deliberately went to cooperate for the benefit of the occupation authorities, and i will even give an example, he is very close to us but like the kremlin, i first of all want to punish the people who betrayed ukraine, who are at the same time representatives of my people. Well, i want them to be punished first of all. For me, this is whose double betrayal i am. I have an example for all of us and to come out, of course you know about such a channel , milet on television, who was supposed to take this place on the rtr tv channel , who was actually expelled, actually expelled, deported to crimea, and there are many such people there, respectively, not many, because there are at least 10 such people there whom we know, here is ira mambetav , this is a person who, after the Russian Occupation authorities banned the rtr tv channel because we did not want to raise the flag of the Russian Federation th year he quoted the socalled meleti tv channel there for 10 years. That is, its not just somehow there. He uh, accidentally got into this position, no uh, this tv channel uh, he was supposed to be a replacement, in their opinion, on the rtr tv channel, they appropriated the frequency aah broadcasting of the rtr tv channel, they appropriated the equipment worth millions, well, bringing the game , it is so accurate. I think that there can be and not a hryvnia, it is more visible there by a special body, ee. Everything was taken over by this man, er, the shell of a mambeta he signed documents about the embezzlement of other peoples property, and he did all this not for the benefit of some private tv channel, for the benefit of the commander , in fact, this show, which continues to this day, there is a new editor, and this editor is the first a collaborator, so who used to be, he seems to be the head of the Editorial Board of the crimean state television, he is now , maybe you will be surprised, but he is now in the United States, he is now. And you know. He pretends to be a refugee from the war there, he tells his socalled colleagues that he is there. He found a way to escape and avoid responsibility, but what will actually happen to such people and can we demand a return to ukraine is forcing such people as all romantic women who openly and sincerely cooperated with the occupiers in the field of propaganda, that is, propaganda is an internationally recognized such category as a part of crimes, including war crimes, mr. Igor , i am asking you for a word about journalists in general and about this case in particular about this case and the activity of the mili channel is the subject of a criminal investigation in our country precisely for collaborative activity, since the implementation of information activities in cooperation with the aggressor state is a cooperative activity, the channel is well known, we all know and have seen their reports and stories and so on, that is, not here who has no doubts about the fact that this channel is a propaganda channel, therefore criminal proceedings are, accordingly, about this person who changed his shoes in the air and is in such an unpopular place for russians the western world also has criminal proceedings and measures to bring this person to criminal responsibility are also being taken by us. There is a problem why and in principle the problem with the article on collaborative activity why because in fact until 2022 we had and still have an article on treason article 111 in the 22nd year the article on collaborative activity was supplemented activities, in fact, many of those actions that are now called collaborative activities used to formally fall under the characteristics of article 111, under the characteristics of the state zone, and here in the circles of lawyers there are such questions that before this or that activity did not reach to state treason, now it brings criminal responsibility, this is such a legal member, i will tell you that there is a lot of activity that was not covered by article 111, as well as, for example, there, journalistic activity is simply journalistic if it is not a propagandists activity, if it did not harm ukraine in any way, then er, say again that all journalists , all teleporters, all employees who work there on the milet channel, that they are collaborators or that they are state traitors. We cannot but specific individuals who are they were responsible for the editorial policy of the channel, who gave instructions to set some stories , what should be the information of the channels information activities, and so on. Its criminals cant because we have to as the Prosecutors Office we have to assess the actions of each person specifically and first understand what he did if this action falls under the characteristics of a crime we must investigate and our task is to prove that this person really committed a crime we cannot on assumptions or, for example, to say that all the criminals, since they were all in crimea, they all worked on the channel , the indictment should clearly contain who for what action and what did he do . Well, in this case, we miss the fact that there is journalism in crimea and which is honestly a bit of an oxymoron for me because, unfortunately, Mykola Semena or Iryna Danylovych are exceptions. These are either public journalists or journalists who cooperate with adequate global ukrainian media, and Everything Else must be recognized by crimea 24 and many other local the media are essentially such daughters of russian tv channels, eh, and this is not journalism this is a propaganda activity, in essence, a propaganda machine, so, so , you really need to be very careful here when considering each individual participant of this process, so that we do not simply rely on the condemnation of people who, with their faces and their mouths, denied the existence of the ukrainian state, im sorry, and supported russian aggression, but these are also the cogs in this system. This is also a very important story and will need to be actively investigated. To be honest , i cant even imagine how many people we will need to attract in order to qualitatively check uh and hmm to carry out such filtering measures in a healthy good sense when we are talking about the crimean peninsula, have assessments already been carried out, how many of us employees of Law Enforcement agencies and special services will be needed for this, in advance of preparing for the reintegration processes in crimea, we calculated approximately my responsibility now is only for the Prosecutors Office, we calculated approximately how many prosecutors are needed there in the offices of the Prosecutors Office of crimea in the district Prosecutors Offices in accordance with the administrative territorial what kind of division is there now . That is, we understand how many employees of the sbu are needed there, Police Officers of the state bureau of investigation, i cannot answer for them but we need a sufficient number of them, since you rightly said that there will be a lot of work in crimea because of the nine years of occupation, filtering measures must be carried out in fact with everyone so that you and i do not get stabbed in the back when we return to crimea the history of february 20, 2014 did not repeat itself. The history of february 22 did not repeat itself. That is, all the guilty must be identified and punished. All innocent people should not actually notice the integration processes. Persons, accordingly, should carry out filtering measures, investigations should be carried out, and people then get a legal opportunity to defend those who are guilty and calm down, and will have a legal argument that will allow them to say that during the occupation of crimea they did not commit a crime neither against ukraine nor against ukrainian citizens mr. Prosecutor, i want to clarify the question, well, in addition, in fact , you said absolutely correctly that it is not possible to judge the a