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ESPRESO July 3, 2024

The g20 in india why the leader of china will not go to the meeting so what can ukraine expect about this and other things today we will talk with our guests and today we will be in touch with the former head of the Security Service of ukraine, peoples deputy of ukraine Valentyn Nalyvaichenko and diplomats and the former ambassador of ukraine to the United States of america valery chaly however, how to start a Big Broadcast before starting a Big Broadcast lets see how it was burning this night in kursk , it was hot this night in kursk, friends for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, i invite you to take part in our survey. Today we ask you about whether oligarch kolomoisky will receive a Court Sentence. The guest is a peoples deputy of ukraine former head of the Security Service of ukraine Valentin Nalyvaichenko p valentin i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes lets start our conversation with today after the sorochy meeting of erdogan and putin, the turkish president flew to putin and had a conversation about, including the grain corridor, about the future in ukraine, well, thats at least what we were interested in, of course, the framework in which the negotiations between putin and ordan were held , it also touched on their economic Relations Relations will be sufficiently powerful. I hope that we will talk about it a little later. As for the grain corridor, there is no agreement. Putin again blames the west and ukraine , saying that both the west and ukraine used grain corridor for tugaba to deliver weapons through this corridor to the ukrainian state well, if we go back to why this grain corridor arose and why exactly these agreements were because putin annexed part of the mor territory of the territorial waters of ukraine and in this way he acted in the role of a sea pirate who does not allow us to use his ports and his claims that he throws at ukraine and the west , obviously he should support yordagascar to say that volodya well, you are doing it wrong because in this situation everything started with you and not with ukraine from the west, the essay is true, it is correct. Everything is true. It was putin who destroyed the security in the black sea. Second, putin and the Russian Troops and his black sea fleet, in principle, destroyed the safety of merchant shipping, that is , he went against the whole world, against all organizations, including the un, in relation to conventions on maritime navigation, it is this universal Maritime Convention that guarantees safety. Putin destroyed it, and now why did he do it . And with one goal to push ukraine out of the grain and other markets of agricultural products, which the country supplied and is ready to continue, in this particular issue in this black sea supply to africa and latin america and further to china , including significant volumes. This is what, in fact , in addition to war crimes, crimes are committed by the black sea fleet of the Russian Federation and you asked sergiy, today the president of turkey, erdogan, visited putin in sochi, although the visit was actually planned for a long time to turkey. But putin is not just afraid , panicked, afraid to leave russia now because he has an arrest warrant from the International Criminal court, thats why he is sitting in russia without a door. But thats why no less, the president of turkey came to see him today and they really talked about the grain corridor, about restoring the possibility of supplying grain to ukraine in the first place, and that in such a package, then russia, turkey, the United Nations for possible russian supplies of grain, but lets figure out what kind of russian grain it is. Well, first of all, there is a lot of grain stolen from ukraine, from kherson, mykolayiv, and so on , from the zaporizhzhia region, where there were temporary occupiers or are until now, this is the first, the second , why so putin, uh is trying through president erdogan, but in fact he wants to restore grain exports, but only for russia, because putin promised india tens of millions of tons of grain, promised qatar, promised other arab countries and huge millions of grain supplies, but now because war against ukraine, against us, he cannot fulfill these promises, that is why, behind the scenes, he is convinced that it was putin who convinced erdogan to do Everything Possible to unblock so that it was us, that it was them, that is , russia supplied millions of tons of grain, but it is clear that russia is also against us and it is possible that its satellites are still trying so that ukraine does not return and restore that grain corridor. In this regard, for us , the task is very clear and not easy, but we must defend and restore the right to our grain corridor, this is ukraine, an organization of the United Nations turkey turkey in all cases it is important because it is turkey that controls the bosphorus straits and others through which our merchant ships must pass in order to sell ukrainian grain on World Markets from china to latin america these are our national interests, but not valentines meeting with putin and discussing this grain agreement , a disagreement and an agreement. The sphere of influence, since the un asks for it, turkey asks for it, which means that it is trading with putin. Is it necessary to trade with a terrorist and a blackmailer in this case . No , there is no need to trade, but i want to emphasize once again that it is putin and russia who are building , finding and encouraging such countries as qatar and others i asked india that both in the organization of the United Nations and in the world they asked turkey to direct it so that it would appear that turkey and the un are asking russia no no, but in fact there is an economic and huge strategic interest precisely for russia constitutes such a grain corridor, but if and as putin wants to continue the war against ukraine and so much for himself, for russia to establish such a grain corridor and such a grain agreement. This is what is behind the scenes. Moreover, tens of millions of tons of grain are at stake and it is also very important, that is, the audience, that russia is not actually capable of processing such a large amount of food, but of producing products that could be competitive on the food markets, therefore precisely as Raw Materials , and as Raw Materials, putin wants russia too er, to export from russia through the grain corridor, and then i told the biggest buyers, and these biggest buyers, well, its clear that they have contracts , its clear that they have the capacity to process and manufacture products, but for russia , at least this way, at least those millions of grain that were stolen and accumulated and were able to collect it themselves on the territory of the Russian Federation, at least bring it out and at least make money on it, because lets look at the real indicators of the economy, and russian attempts are in the red in a huge multibilliondollar deficit according to the indicators of the first half of this year, other goods and products on which russia earned the same amount of profit, thats not why, in fact, the grain corridor is also a question of the survival of the russian economy, and thats why they are so desperately seeking this grain corridor for themselves and for themselves, mr. Valentina, today Oleksiy Reznikov, the minister of defense of ukraine, wrote a Resignation Letter with a request for resignation, the Verkhovna Rada of ukraine should consider this statement before that, president zelenskyi explained that varshnikov is coming, lets listen to what zelenskyi said Oleksiy Reznikov passed these more than 550 days of fullscale war. I believe that the ministry needs new approaches and other formats of interaction both with the military and with society as a whole. The ministry must now lead. Valentines for you as a peoples deputy and for a person who led the sbu twice. Explanations why Oleksiy Reznikov is leaving his post. In other words, he is not being asked to resign because of the fact that there was corruption in the ministry of defense and he speaks of the fact that we fought for ukraine for 550 days, is the issue of what happened in the ministry of defense with the change of reznikov naumerov resolved . The first and most important thing is more than 550 days of war. It is our defenders who are fighting for ukraine and honor to them. Kudos to the change of the minister. I have long predicted what will happen. Not only that, but it starts with the fact that during this week, in the Verkhovna Rada, we will indeed vote and remove this minister of defense , and i am convinced that the most important issue here is to first pass the lie detector regarding involvement in corruption offenses and the minister himself and his deputies, and the second is an anticorruption check by anticorruption bodies, for example, we have an Anticorruption Bureau of ukraine , and every case that has become known and which is still unknown of possible corruption abuses by the ministry of defense must be investigated. It cannot be allowed, why is it important, because it is necessary to purchase now from our front lines for our soldiers, for food, highquality drinking water, and so on, and so on. The responsibility is directly on the ministry of defense and once again and one more time. Do not have any illusions, in fact, the Central Authority for managing the entire defense sphere in ukraine is one , it is called the ministry of defense, it is not just some kind of administration. Collegiality is one option , personal responsibility, and i know that, all social networks know it. All journalists have been writing for more than one month, and i dont even want to count. But i will say this nothing weakens us like top corruption in, especially in the defense and security agencies, that is why the ministry of defense must urgently bring order to the mountain itself, and secondly, and in the event of permanent violations, everything that was stolen is confiscated and returned, i insist that the budget of the armed forces of ukraine is returned, is the rotation of the ministers personnel rotation enough, mr. Valentin reznikov as a minister has died, the rotation is definitely not enough, and here once again i emphasize the very important seas, first in the ministry of defense, as when professional military personnel from with an absolutely pure reputation of integrity, where to look for them and at the front, they are all at the front, in fact, and in the general staff, our pride, our real er, worthy military men, and that is where i would look for new members of my colleagues in the ministry of defense, that is, new deputies of the er, already new, now the minister of defense one event of this weekend that is quite lively discussed by people, including in social networks , is Igor Kolomoiskyi and his admission to the Pretrial Detention Center Shevchenkivskyi District Court of the capital on september 2 chose a preventive measure kolomoisky in the form of detention for two months or with the alternative of paying a bail of more than uah 5,009 million. Well, he is accused of fraud and Money Laundering, and it is known that he, together with his partner bogolyubov, took 5 billion 500 Million Dollars out of ukraine that is, against this background, the bail of 14 million looks like a pittance at all. Well, at least for kolomoiskyi , kolomoiskyi said that he will not post bail for the time being, he does not have such a goal, according to you, is such a bailment fair first and second, what exactly is kolomoiyskyi counting on . The first thing is that the search that was carried out on february 1 of this year kolomoiskyi 7 months have passed, and only in seven months they went to the first Court Session , and that was not on the merits of the case. That is, detention or nondetention is the second decision of the Ukrainian Court itself. It seems that this is the shevchenkiv district court. Well, as far as i heard, the judge read for some reason called Ihor Kolomoiskyi a citizen of ukraine. This is a legal question, but what is it . The society should receive a clear answer. The judge will announce the verdict in which citizen of ukraine and whether he is a citizen of ukraine. Is israel and cyprus the third question . In these, in the text that was handed over, i suspect that this is fraud and the second is the laundering of illegally obtained funds, these are the socalled economic articles, but i can say that in the near future the prosecutor general of the office of the general the prosecutors first step is to identify whether or not there are facsimiles, facts and evidence , i. E. Corruption involved in Money Laundering up to the billions that you mentioned, which ukrainian journalists and independent experts call the withdrawal of billions and billions only in dollars of money from ukraine, which means that the prosecutor general must make a decision and transfer these parts of this fact to nabu. National Anticorruption Bureau of ukraine. I am convinced that the prosecutor general of the prosecutor general of ukraine should make a decision in the near future on the extradition or nonextradition of kolomoisky himself, because the United States of america and i know for a fact that the fbi and the Us Department of justice are continuing the legal procedural actions of the investigation into the facts of Money Laundering on the territory of the United States and there, kolomoisky and other persons are involved and are already going to us, for example, in the state of delaware, there are even courts, so i think that everything has just begun and it will not be limited to this one even on the territory of ukraine, there is an investigation into the transfer of money and in relation to these persons, starting with the kolomoiskyi game, you have already mentioned this case conducted by the United States of america, including the fbi. There, it is about the laundering of hundreds of millions of dollars, they are moving in cleveland. This business has not started since 2020, although this whole business started in 2019, in 2020 he was banned from entering the United States of america as well as members of his family, it was in march 2019 of the 20th year, according to your under what conditions is it possible to extradite kolomoiskyi to the United States of america because Pavlo Lazarenko went there himself with a panamanian passport and ended up on trial. Kolomoiskyi is supposedly a citizen of israel and cyprus and is supposedly a citizen of ukraine. I say this because a year ago there was a report about the fact that he was deprived of this citizenship , if he remains a citizen of ukraine , can ukraine extradite him to the United States of america . Can they take him there, conditionally speaking, as a citizen of israel or cyprus, lets all lets briefly explain to our dear tv viewers about Pavlo Lazarenko, the United States of america Prosecutors Office so that california confiscates all 700 Million Dollars that he stole from ukraine, creating a shortage of antigla and barbud period. For the same years, he received an answer and served it on the territory of the United States , now regarding Ihor Kolomoiskyi in if he is a citizen of israel, which i think the ministry of Foreign Affairs of ukraine should have informed the consul of israel and the consul of cyprus about the detention of their citizen in case if he does not have ukrainian citizenship, then extradition is decided upon request, if the american side asks about it, then to the israeli side, now ukraine, that is why i said that it is important to make decisions based on the fact that the Prosecutor Generals Office should simply be a company, and he is alive and well, and can be transferred and directly or through israel and through cyprus if it is a community he is a citizen of ukraine at the time i know so much and this is so the prosecutor general of ukraine is the head of the office of the prosecutor general of ukraine while in washington officially confirmed on behalf of ukraine that ukraine can and will hand over to the United States for extradition any top corruptor or any top offender and this without names. This was and is a direct agreement between the office of the general tour of the us ministry of justice and the office of prosecutor general in ukraine. Thats all the possibilities, thats why i voiced them and voiced you on the air, and that mechanism is possible, and that mechanism is possible, meaning extradition of the tra

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