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Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703

Havoc on their families, and with winter fast approaching, its imperative that we help them make the most of each day. Support break even for a short period of time can change everything on the battlefield, just as critical is that such a loss of support will lead putin to believe that he can wait and continue the conflict until we, and our allies and our partners, surrender. I will note that kirby also reported that biden spoke by phone with the leaders of the allied countries about the provision of coordinated support to ukraine, and in this conversation, in particular , the leaders of canada, germany, italy, japan, poland, romania, Great Britain and france participated, and also managers nato, the European Commission and the european council. At the same time, the United States is increasingly calling on ukraine to fight more corruption in the government and financial transparency, and in the past few weeks has made it clear through its messages that certain types of aid to kyiv will be directly linked to progress in reforms in ukrainian institutions, about this is written by the american central news agency, with reference to several american officials. According to this media, at the end of the summer, the Us State Department sent an official diplomatic note of demarche to kyiv. In it allegedly refers to the fact that the usa expects kyiv to continue its fight against corruption in order to be able to continue to provide it with direct budget assistance in the future. Especially in white. Ostensibly to emphasize the need for Critical Reforms related to Money Laundering and terrorist financing. I would like to note that a day earlier, another publication politically wrote that the Biden Administration is much more concerned about corruption in ukraine than it is shown publicly, this is allegedly evidenced by the confidential version of the integrated strategy for ukraine, which ended up in the policy order, and according to this publication, it is three times larger than the public one, and it is it that contains the. Regarding corruption in ukraine. It is worth adding that in september , the ukrainian publication ukrainian pravda stated that the white house handed over a letter to ukraine with a list of reforms that kyiv allegedly needs to implement in order to continue receiving aid from washington. However, at the time, the us embassy in ukraine stated that the submitted list was the basis for consultations, and voice of america journalists, referring to the official response of the white house, reported that the implementation of these reforms are not a condition. For providing military aid to ukraine. In addition, the reform of ukraine is also discussed in the context of membership in the European Union. Countries that are candidates for eu membership should strengthen reforms. This is stated in the previous version of the statement based on the results of the summit in granada, spain, the document was at the disposal of Radio Liberty. It says that russian aggression against ukraine has tested the resilience of the European Union. The findings also focus on the Eu Enlargement policy as an investment in peace, security, stability and prosperity. This is a quote, rfe rl reports. And, like the eu, future and future Member States must be ready for this as well. Candidates seeking membership need to step up work on reforms, particularly in the area of ​​the rule of law, in line with the meritbased nature of the accession process. And with the support of the eu, the statement said. The summit of eu leaders in granada, in spain, is already scheduled for october 5, and i would like to note that ukraine received the status of a candidate for eu membership on june 22 year and it should also be recalled that recently, during the meeting of the ministers of the European Union countries in kyiv, volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, expressed such hopes that such are the first important actions regarding ukraines accession to the eu, they will take place this year, about corruption reforms, expectations ukrainian partners, lets talk further, yaroslav yurchyshyn, first deputy. The voice of the Verkhovna Rada committee on anticorruption policy from the faction joined our broadcast. I congratulate you. Good morning i want to talk, for example, about the fact that politicians write that the Biden Administration is much more concerned about corruption in ukraine than they show it publicly. But in kyiv, do you think they are worried about this concern of biden . In fact, lets start with the fact that Ukrainian Society is probably even more worried about the fact that we have a week. Does not pass without one or more corruption scandals , then the mayor of sumy is arrested, then corruption in the procurement of the ministry of defense, such lists can be listed, that is, such examples can be given a lot, and therefore the key, lets say, the customer anticorruption reform, effective anticorruption reform is apparently not the Biden Administration, not the European Union, but society and therefore in kyiv cannot be, well, not to understand this, but it is a pity that very often, and the form is replaced by the content, and, we remember the statements of the president about equating corruption with treason, about the initiative to have all judges pass a lie detector there and the like, but based on the analysis of what punishments, what sanctions are used in relation to corruption, and how many problems are created in legislation in order to reduce the effectiveness of the fight against corruption, we understand that very often statements differ significantly from real steps, therefore, do they understand the concerns of Ukrainian Society and International Partners, the authorities understand very well, whether everything is being done to convince both of them that we are doing everything to overcome. Unfortunately, no, as long as the names tatarov and shurma appear in the president s office , who themselves were, and are, involved in anticorruption and corruption investigations, well, there will be very little faith in the effectiveness, and 100 percent commitment to the fight against corruption, most likely, this will again be done under coercion, let me remind you of the last vivid example, when representatives of the majority government, restoring electronic declaration, decided to make it closed for at least a year and only under pressure from society, thanks to the petition submitted, initiated by the soldier of the legendary vovka devinci battalion oleksandr mebchenko, who collected the necessary 25,000 in a short time, and in less than three days, a record of more than 80,000, we will have such electronic declarations and will be open, well, very much. That the president will sign this bill in the near future, yaroslav, how serious the situation is, now, so that the usa can see what they heard in kyiv, all these demands, and what should kyiv do, you mentioned the names, these people should not be in the president s office , what kind of reforms, you know, are of primary importance, so that it is clear that yes , well, the dialogue has begun, in fact there is a very clear answer to the international. Partners publicly , in fact, provided a list of recommendations, literally yesterday, the mission of the International Monetary fund finished its work, and there is sole the list of what we have to do, the first is to renew lifelong monitoring of the public financial status of public figures, in accordance with the recommendations of fatf, an International Organization for combating Money Laundering, it is very unpleasant for officials, and especially for those who are not involved in corruption, because they suffer they are due to the fact that actually a small part of their colleagues, and they allow themselves illegal actions, but because of this they will monitor everyone, and quite scrupulously, but this must be done as soon as possible, because it is not only a demand, a recommendation, more correctly to say, of our International Partners, and this is the only one of the seven steps that ukraine voluntarily took upon itself, that before the start of negotiations on membership in the European Union, we carry it out, in principle, well, if from the side of the European Union, any obstacles to start with negotiations by us are removed by definition. The second point is within a threemonth period, that is, by the end of the year, we need to adopt a law on greater organizational independence of the National Specialized anticorruption prosecutors office. In principle, it would be very ideal. The same to cancel the infamous amendments of lozovsky, and which absurdly limited the possibility of investigation, in corruption cases, and accordingly the side the defense, that is, the suspect and his lawyers are prolonging this procedure as much as possible in order to go beyond the deadlines and, according to formal signs, they did not have time, goodbye , the court would close this case. This was the promise of president zelensky and his team back in the 19th year, it was partially implemented, but unfortunately only partially, and now we see a rather large list of cases that were closed or they are trying to close this, this, this, and so on, the case of berezkin, a former peoples deputy, regarding the improper spending of a loan from the state bank, the dubnevich mortgage case, and other cases related to ukrzaliznytsia, that is , wellknown names, and wellknown cases, if this, and this is quite realistically do it within three months, its all already in the parliament , there is no need for any serious discussions there, but to improve, adapt, accept for International Partners as well, of course this will be enough, another issue is what is needed for society, for society, in fact, it would be very right, in fact, to get rid of people who have even a hint that they are involved in corruption, why is it important, well, the office of the president , no matter what, it is a patronage service, there are no people who are officially appointed at competitions, it is the president who forms his team, even if these people were in the positions of advisers, if these people were not publicly responsible for entire areas, like shurma for the economy or tatarov for, if it did not sound funny, cynical, but actually for Law Enforcement and anticorruption bodies, then probably, in principle, there would be fewer questions, until the moment when these people are in the office, well , there will be skepticism on the part of Ukrainian Society for sure, International Partners will not mention the name, but every time we promise with our mouths that the Prime Minister the minister. Of the president , that we are ready to fight there as much as possible, well , even if it will be perceived with a certain level of skepticism. Finally, i also want to ask you, yaroslav, about such a moment, american officials, according to all their documents, are concerned about the role oligarchs in the ukrainian economy, in the open part, in particular the strategy of this deoligarchization , especially of the energy and hydro, mining sectors, that this is a key principle for the restoration of a better ukraine and that one of the indicators of success, as stated in the already closed version, is that , that the Ukrainian Government is implementing significant reforms , decentralizing control over the energy sector, there is a direct reference here, who are we talking about here, which oligarchs control strategic objects today, well, actually nothing critical has changed, but now kolomoisky has dropped from the list of people who control strategic spheres, but the names of Rinat Akhmetov and konstantin azhiv. Unfortunately, firtash and others are still heard periodically, and what the International Partners actually offer, they were skeptical about the fact that lets create a list of oligarchs, they are forbidden to engage in privatization there, everything will be fine. In fact, they already have a very substantial influence, unfortunately, after the war it has every chance to be not only restored, but strengthened, so here it is necessary and Effective Work of the antimonopoly committee, on the one hand, on the other hand, it is the formation of Corporate Governance in state enterprises, supervisory boards that will be independent, that will be elected in such a way that the oligarchs cannot place their people there, and even those, sorry, canned goods , that is, those people who were previously appointed to positions will not be able to act in the interests of the financial and industrial groups themselves, because on the one hand they will be controlled by the supervisory board, not allowing. Actions not in public interests, in the interests of private individuals or financial and industrial groups, on the other hand, if they commit such actions, our anticorruption bodies will catch up with them. Thank you, that is, how should we react in kyiv to such remarks and recommendations of washington, we heard from you, time will tell how it will happen in practice, yaroslav yurchyshyn, the first deputy chairman of the Verkhovna Rada committee on anticorruption policy from the voice faction, was guest of our broadcast. Despite the significant destruction, they are in a hurry to rebuild their houses in order to spend the winter at home, this is about the inhabitants of the village darivka in the kherson region, when the kakhovska hes, a tributary of the dnipro, the ingulets river, on which the village stands, was destroyed in the summer of this year, also overflowed its banks, houses here were flooded up to their roofs, the streets could only be navigated by boats, people lost everything, but despite this, they did not leave the village, how they are preparing for winter and what they were able to recover in the material of Radio Liberty correspondent ivan anta. Here we are now driving the streets that were flooded by the zvu, absolutely, you see, there is not a single, not a single trace. Traces of flooding, well, except houses, everything was cleaned, the garbage was taken away, everything was done quickly, these houses were all piled up, here is a meter, these were also completely flooded completely under the roof, this is the village of darivka, which is not far from kherson, after the runation of kakhovskaya hess, the ingulets river came out of its banks there and made trouble, several tens of houses became unlivable, now we will enter one of these, eva ivanovna, a local resident, lived here, she went to her relatives, unfortunately, the house cannot be saved, because the destruction is very strong, the walls, the roof, are currently not subject to restoration , i did not save anything, because it was already impossible to enter here, so i twisted everything, and left. The water rose to the very roof, there was one pipe and the dogs were running on the roof, they took the boats, a motor boat floated around the yard, they took the dogs off, and we had it for four days, when the water subsided two days after we arrived, it happened here, that it is not clear what, it was possible to save something from the things, nothing, things, three armchairs were saved and thats all, all the things simply fell apart, not with the refrigerator. There was nothing, not tvs, well, now i live in an apartment, a house, it is not subject to one thing, i am not subject to lovno, they said, yes, well, i will wait for a while, i am drawing up the documents , everyone promises some help, yes, a certificate for housing, they promised, we will wait, i lived here 73 , lived in this house for 72 years, and would have lived if it had not been flooded. Well, there is a stone lying here, there was a kitchen, the kitchen was completely washed away, it was all dismantled, and the stone was stacked there to build something further , it is completely here, there is not even a trace that there was a kitchen, this is how the streets in dariivka look now, you are following me see a boat on which people saved their property. Now a lot of garbage has already been removed from this street, but at the time of the flooding there was a house here, as the local residents say, show the boys what they have done, the water rose in this house by about 1 m 20 cm, but the local residents have already. Had time to make such a first floor repair, they tell us that they did it on their own, volunteers helped somewhere, there was help with building materials, but mostly they did it themselves, they bought it themselves , it will be possible to winter in this house, then they put cardboard, then asbestos, then plaster, well this i made a screed, a screed, a screed, and then it dried, it was already wallpaper, well, you did everything yourself, well, who, who, helped, my son and daughterinlaw did it, and you were in charge, tell the truth, i will live, the son is fine , everything is clean, but at home is better, at home, dont be afraid, there is a war nearby, after all, so what, and we only rely on god . That you already threw a screed there, what kind of screed, good day, hello, and this is it, its drying, its drying, you turned over a stone, and theres water, thats all that has sunk in, oh, everything has fallen, we dont touch what left, and there, because the shaking code is being bombed so that the ceiling does not come down at all, do you want to restore this house, yes, as it was, how much time and money is needed for this, according to your estimate . Oh, the wife is counting, she knows, because how much has already been spent, and you, well, 103

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