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Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240703

, 23rd, archimandrite Ioann Prokopenko was informed of suspicion of collaboration. Participated in the forum we content with russia in melitopol. On may 12, the 23rd, metropolitan yoasav of the Kirovohrad Diocese of mp received three years in prison with a twoyear probationary period. He was part of the immediate circle of Patriarch Kirill, praised the occupation of ukraine, provoked enmity in favor of the aggressor. May 23 , the 23rd, to the abbot of the mens monastery of st. Archimandrite ion prokopenko was informed of the suspicion of collaborative activity by the reverend saint in melitopol. The abbot of the mens monastery of the chernivtsibukovyna diocese of mp was notified of the suspicion longen for inciting international enmity. On july 10, 23rd, a cleric of the moscow patriarchate was exposed in the cherkasy region, who justified Russian Armed aggression. He kept hitlers portrait and justified putin. On july 26, on the 23rd, he reported the suspicion to metropolitan iosif maslinnikov of the uocsp. The bishop blessed the russian army to fight against the armed forces. Hiding in the russian federation. And most recently, on september 26, in the kherson region, the sbu detained a cleric of the Russian Orthodox church who was selling weapons, in particular ammunition for rpg igla grenade launchers, assault rifles and machine guns, equipped two vaults. One of them is just in the church. His friends from crime helped him find clients. September 30, 2022, vgho. Kremlin, putin announces the socalled annexation of four occupied regions of ukraine. Among the guests of honor are clerics of the moscow patriarchate from ukraine. Metropolitan of luhansk and alchevsk panteleimon povorozniuk, abbot of the saint savina monastery in melitopol, archimandrite ion prokopenko, and abbot of the assumption cathedral in kherson, archimandrite alexiy fedorov. Such a large amount there were no traitor priests in any denomination, in any church. It is interesting that the church itself did not excommunicate them, did not punish them, did not apply the rules of the church court, why . Because most of the priests of this church stand in the same position. According to an investigation by ukrainian pravda, metropolitan unufriy and more than 20 bishops of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine have russian citizenship. Onufriy, he is already orest berezovsky, received a russian passport in moscow on march 20 , 2002, and in 2003 also a foreign passport of the russian federation. However, this is already his second passport for traveling abroad. He received the first one back in 1998, so he had russian citizenship back in the 90s. Well, this is also a historical experience. Since the restoration of the Russian Orthodox church by stalin in 1943, it has been an organic part of the imperial body, as well as the bishops in ukraine as sexots. According to the report of the ministry of internal affairs of the ukrainian ssr after the restoration of the Russian Orthodox church in 1945, 17 bishops and one metropolitan of the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine, and 15 agents of the special services, a total of 574 priests were recruited, and another 1,636 were informers, or as they spoke in the people, sexots. The most valuable agents of the mdb of the ukrainian ssr in 1947 in the operative reference are named agent petrov, this is the bishop of vershalovograd and donetsk nikon petrov, who, quote, developed the antisoviet underground of the johnites, with his help the illegal monastery in lysychchansk, kinets, was liquidated. Gent hlibov, lviv Bishop Makariy oksiyuk, his main goal is not only the defeat of the ugc and the discovery of the priests of the catacomb church. Oksiyuk also led a special counterintelligence operation on raiding the polish Orthodox Church, its taken to constantinople. Ivanov, drohobytsk Bishop Mykhailo melnyk. The ordination of a simple priest took place in the kyivpechersk lavra after he actively joined the pseudosor in 46. To the agent the nkvd tasked the late bishop of nyshinsky, borys vik, with the task of fighting the clergy of the ukrainian autocephalous Orthodox Church, which was restored under the german occupation. Agent usov, bishop. Supskyi and okhtyrskyi hilarion prokhorov. Quote performed a special task of the Second Administration of the nkvd, did a lot of work with detection of romanian and german intelligence agencies and other antisoviet elements. The exchairman of the council of religious affairs of the ussr kostyantyn kharchev later stated. Quote no candidate for the office of bishop or other high office, any member of the holy synod, received it without the approval of the ccks and the kgb. Separate special measures of the Security Service of ukraine help to identify the most dangerous persons, but in no way solve the problem as a whole, because it is not a matter of several dozen traitors, but of the criminal organization itself. This is a highly motivated, ideologically driven group that is thorough performs assigned tasks. But if espionage and adjusting the fire are relatively easy to detect, it is more difficult to prove the provocation of civil conflict, and the priests of the Russian Orthodox church are doing it all over ukraine. Take the same processions with the gogoryv ribbons of icons. The russian emperor, why not . They have not abandoned their antiukrainian propaganda, they do not mourn ukrainian soldiers. What about the government . The authorities turn a blind eye to the Russian Orthodox church. Ukrainians dont, sociology proves it. If in december 2022, 78 of ukrainians demanded that the authorities take action on the mmp, then in july 23 already 85 . If those who demanded an immediate ban of mp were 54 , now it is already 66 . And most importantly, ukrainians do not believe in the effectiveness of individual pointbypoint investigations regarding clerics of the Russian Church in ukraine, if in december 12 believed that this was enough, now only six. This problem, which threatens ukrainian statehood, should be solved systematically, not by sanctions of the National Security council or court verdicts, but by a decision of the Ukrainian Parliament. That is why i insist on the adoption of a special law. He should not put a period in the long a dramatic history that began back in 1992, when moscow organized a coup and a split in ukrainian orthodoxy and made it its weapon. In total, the Verkhovna Rada registered 11 draft laws banning or restricting the activities of the uocp, but the main ones are two 82 21, authored by mykola knyazhytskyi, 83 71, authored by the cabinet of ministers. Law project 82 21 was also supported by deputies from european solidarity, voice, servant of the people, group for the future and nonpartisan groups. The committee on humanitarian and information policy recommended him to consideration in the session hall. The essence of my draft law is that the activities of the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine are prohibited. Therefore, the law stops the influence of russia and the russian world, because this is a direct duty of the state, but it is already a direct duty of the government, the office of the president and the Verkhovna Rada to fulfill their constitutional duties to ensure the National Security of a warring country. The roc structures must stop playing fools with our state and society, saying that the uocp has distanced itself from moscow, because in fact it is a religious organization headed by the russian citizen orist berezovsky, aka metropolitan onufriy, will be subject to Patriarch Kirill and moscow in the future. The government cannot transfer its direct responsibilities to citizens. It is the government that must ensure compliance with law and order. Inactivity of the authorities cannot provoke conflicts. The authorities have no right to cover the activities of the aggressors structure on our territory. Freedom of conscience reigns in ukraine , so the state has no right to interfere in what people believe in, or do not believe at all, someone wants to believe in a saint, or already not such a holy onuphrius, i want, let him believe. The tomos on the autocephaly of the Orthodox Church of ukraine was received by the church itself, as well as by the ukrainian state. This is one of the fundamental acts of ukrainian statehood, the foundation of our spiritual independence. It is about her that president Volodymyr Zelensky talks so passionately. Its time to turn these words into action. The decision to ban the activities of the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine depends exclusively on him. Draft law 82. 21 corresponds to the decisions of the Constitutional Court of ukraine and the Supreme Court of ukraine. He exclusively consistent with european legislation in the field of freedom of conscience, Judicial Practice and recommendations of the European Court of human rights. And therefore, any citizen who will challenge the norms of our draft law, which will become law, will have to first answer the question about how the activity will be done. Everything in ukraine serves the National Interests of ukraine, defends the ukrainian Democratic Society against russian aggression, the goal of which is the destruction of the state and the genocide of the nation. My bill is based on what is in ukraine there is already an autocephalous Orthodox Church, so any religious organization can use the word orthodox in its name, only if it is subordinate to the Orthodox Church of ukraine, because the patriarchal and synodal tomos was given not only to a separate church, but to the entire state, because the state also takes care about receiving it, thats why the Verkhovna Rada appealed, thats why the government and the president dealt with this issue. This is a political and legal document, not just a religious document. Therefore, i propose to make. Tomos in our legislation as an act of state creation. All other denominations will continue to operate in ukraine, but only one local church can use the word orthodox in its name. Thus, the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine will no longer be able to manipulate the charter and call itself the ukrainian Orthodox Church. Any ties between ukrainian religious communities and the Russian Orthodox church should be monitored. The procedure will be established by the cabinet of ministers. And most importantly bill 821 is fully compliant. European legislation in the field of speech and freedom of conscience, in the field of National Security protection and practice of the European Court of human rights. That is why it is not about advantages for any church, nor about restrictions for another , nor about banning someone, nor about oppression of religion, it is only about the inadmissibility of activities in ukraine of an organization that supports and participates in armed aggression against ukraine. And in matters of National Security, europe is uncompromising. The draft law 82 21 and its amendments also gained legitimacy within ukraine, in particular, it was supported by a number of Regional Councils, lviv, khmelnytskyi, zhytomyr, vinnytsia, kyiv, kharkiv, all other Regional Councils adopted an appeal to the parliament to ban the activities of the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine without specifying draft laws. The mykolaiv, zaporizhzhya and dnipropetrovsk Regional Councils did not consider this issue, and refused to even discuss the odesa problem on june 23, 2023. Law project 8221 of april 4 this year was supported by a coalition of public activists. Quote we, representatives of ukrainian public organizations. We call on the Ukrainian Parliament to protect the National Security of ukraine and finally ban subversive activities in structures of the Russian Orthodox church created by order of stalin in our country. The activities of the Russian Orthodox church and its local branch of the uoc of the moscow patriarchate have always had a more political than religious nature. In conditions of fullscale russian aggression, the actions of these structures, which go beyond the scope of purely church life, are particularly dangerous. This is the statement of the activists. On november 25 , 2022, peoples Deputy Oleksiy Goncharenko submitted a petition for immediate consideration of draft law 82 21. In just three days, she got the necessary 25,000 votes. By month, on december 24, 22nd, president Volodymyr Zelenskyi responded to the petition, saying that it was not his competence. And the Verkhovna Rada. At the same time, he reminded that the cabinet of ministers has already received an order to prepare an alternative draft law, according to the decision of the nsdc on december 1, 2022. Therefore, on december 1, 2022 , the issue of the roc was considered by the council of National Security and defense. This means that the authorities recognized this structure as a military threat. That is how i write in my draft law a threat to National Security, but at the same time, instead of taking an already ready draft law, which received from the approval of the committee of the Verkhovna Rada and bring it to the hall for voting, the authorities instruct to prepare an alternative document, but what is important, this draft law is not an alternative to draft law 8221, but a torpedo that should sink any intention to liquidate the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine. It was not for nothing that onufriy supported him. Whats wrong with a government document . Lets figure it out. If draft law 82. 21 proposes a clear and direct ban on the activities of the Russian Orthodox church in ukraine, government bill 8371 uses vague wording that will allow to evade from their implementation. In particular, the state service for ethnopolitics and freedom of conscience must first conduct a religious examination to identify subordination in canonical matters to the church from the aggressors country. If a violation is established, an order is issued to eliminate them, and if the violation is not eliminated within a month, a lawsuit is filed in court. On the termination of the activity of a religious organization. What does this mean in practice . And only that the government actually proposes to ban each religious organization separately, because there is not enough in the draft Legal Certainty and clearly defined mechanism. The Russian Orthodox church has about 10,000 such organizations in ukraine. It will be impossible to ban the activities of the Russian Orthodox church as a structure due to a timeconsuming bureaucratic procedure, an even longer judicial one. We use a vivid example of how it lasted for almost eight years. The procedure for banning the activities of the communist party, although a much more obvious enemy, but nevertheless a lawsuit for its protection was filed on july 8, 2014, and the appeal was finally banned by the communist party of ukraine on july 5 , 2022. Do you know what happened during this time . March 8, 2022, Russian Special forces already evacuated petro symonenko, first to belarus, and then to russia, while the communist party was still on trial. So that this does not happen, that onufri with his russian passport will already be closer to symonenko, and the courts will continue to consider cases related to the Russian Orthodox church. Government bill 8371 has a cumbersome legal procedure consisting of several legal acts, a religious examination, a writ and a court filing. And each such legal decision stimulates a large number of separate legal proceedings. Challenging a prescription or examination is a process that takes years. If the subject of the litigation will be validity of the examination, the court will be obliged to appoint a forensic examination. But there are no certified Forensic Experts in religious studies in the country. There are also no registered methods of their implementation. That is, consideration. Cases on appeal of only the prescription and only in the first instance can drag on for years. Unlike draft law 8221, which is based on the practice of the European Court of human rights, the governments draft 8371 provides for an appeal to the ecthr, even before the state unit policy S

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