That you are forming an army of such bandits, if, who want, well, bandits are not bandits, but it was clearly said , including by china, that we want to introduce a new world order, not the world order that was established after the Second World War and then the cold war, but a new world order in which the role of it is not the nature of states to play, relatively speaking, and this its true, the taliban were invited to beijing, that is, they were something, not so long ago. until they seized power, they were terrorists, they destroyed historical assets in the same territory of afghanistan, they have women at the level of slavery now, but in beijingers believe that everyone decides their own lifestyle, the main thing is that you, if the government in a specific country, this is the approach of beijing that they want, this is their one belt, one road, i call it, let the chinese not be offended, but it looks so as one yoke, one. One way, because, well, you know, well, countries like that invite russia, shake hands, sdzenpin says, in china there is a saying that when you give a rose, the smell of the rose remains on your hands, even when you gave it, and what remains, what is the smell after shaking hands with putin, i dont understand, beijing these line, they are losing its image very seriously, by the way, i drew your attention to china a little, but now today there is a new data report, that is, a report on the chinese stock market, the stock market where shares are traded, it fell below the 19th year, even before of covid19, in dollar equivalent minus 15 , well, now there was 15 for today, but this is a disaster, because it means that the real estate market, well, it could be a disaster for china, is leaving the real estate market. See the risks as geopolitical, and china is very vulnerable from an economic point of view, despite its huge size. When we speak and when russia and china speak, they mention their size, how many people, what countries per territory, and if you look at their capacity, how much they have per person and what level of development, then these are not the countries that can brag about anything in front of the usa or even any country of the european union. Well, from those who are central, western europe, what are we talking about, that is, china, and well, russia, i am not saying anything anymore, because this, i called senator mccain, that this is the upper volta with nuclear weapons, yes, in Russia Nuclear weapons, china has less of this, china sees its development in a different way, but it also faces very big economic problems, so i think that the formation of two blocs, i also see it, there will be no multipolar world, already it can be seen that from january 1, six countries join the brics countries, brics, well, this is what basically unites south africa, india, china, russia, brazil, and plus six countries, there are such strange countries as ethiopia, in principle, a big country, iranders or the same , that is why they are gradually forming such an economic connection, but on, but. Nowadays the economy does not work without security, without the cover of security, that is why china openly went to form a bloc, a big bloc, where china will be the leader and there will be supporters behind it his lines, russia has already signed up to this, thats all, they have already signed a partnership there without limits or without borders, russia putin has already surrendered his country to this scheme, that is, i dont know what the russians will do next there, but he surrendered in exchange for the fact that china will now turn a blind eye to its crimes in europe, on ukrainian territory, it will expand further, and probably in the next 1015 years we will witness the formation of two such blocs and third groups of countries that will maneuver between them, that is, this is a very familiar scheme of the cold war, the soviet union, the United States, and means third world countries, but the place of the soviet union will now be replaced by china, thats the whole logic, probably this is how people would be used to living, because no one can propose a more complex scheme, and therefore ukraine must be understood there. That now this is only the first stage of the formation of this new world order and we have our task to remove war from our country, thats all, that is, we will not be able to avoid wars in the world, they will be, and you say taiwan, in your speech, well, joseph biden so briefly about taiwan, yes he said funds there, but thats where it will be in my opinion the next 510 years are hot. Not just a hot spot, but just the possibility of turning into a regional conflict, what we are currently seeing in the middle east, even what we are seeing in the russian war against ukraine, this can still be stopped, that is, it is simply a very big effort for us in terms of resources, in terms of the development of the country, in the end, we lose our people more dearly, but this is a start, let us, god grant, so that next year we throw this. War out of our territory its simple, but this conflict will unfold, im not in it i doubt it, everyone is currently measuring their muscles on different planes , including at sea, including in regions, international organizations, this is a kind of reconnaissance, preparation for a big clash, which will then distribute the places of everyone in the world, and believe me , russia wont be anywhere near there, china is a serious power, and im being honest. Perhaps their combination of their economic and then military strength with their governance regime in their country. Thank you, mr. Valery, in just a few minutes we will return to the conversation, now we will have tatyana on vysotska, our correspondent in europe and european institutions. Tatyana, i congratulate you, im glad to see you on our air, i congratulate sergey, im also very glad to see you, greetings from the already empty sidelines. Of the palace of europe in strasbourg and actually ready for questions, very interesting, thank you tania, on sunday in paris, 15,000 people came to a rally in support of the palestinian people, according to journalists, the police blocked the streets around the square where people tried to condemn, well mass murders in quotation marks are mass murders, of course, as if committed israel in the gas sector. Please tell me how france treats the war in the middle east, and is it somehow different from the attitude towards the war in ukraine . Yes, actually, in france, as we know, a large Muslim Community traditionally lives, and therefore it affects both french politics and the attitude of the french to what is happening now in the middle east, and we can say that even now, as in throughout europe, as well as in france, the focus of attention is already shifting from ukraine to the near east, because europe is going through, there is some fear and concern about the spread of islamic terrorism to the european continent, and so, for example, in paris, 15,000 people took to the streets, and according to the organizers there were 30,000 people, and fortunately there were no clashes, but there were mass arrests, dozens of people were arrested for antisemitic rhetoric, that is, the situation in society is heating up from within, and actually for a frenchman, for an ordinary frenchman, for a french politician, what is happening in ukraine is somehow distant scary putin, who is well contained by the ukrainian army, is less scary than the same muslim with a knife who can be waiting for him somewhere on the street around the corner, and for example, what can we say about paris, if here in strasbourg, which is one of the capitals of the european union, also, they tried to hold. The demonstration was an official application for the palestinian forces, but the local authorities refused it, fearing for security issues, but nevertheless, several hundred people came out into the streets and here in strasbourg there was already a bit of a massacre, the French Police , even applied silgil gas, there were arrests, that is, the situation in French Society is a bit shaky, and the french are afraid of the danger of islamic terrorism, or for example, a very recent example yesterday. Right in the center of strasbourg, near the central synagogue, a young man was arrested who came there from with a knife and began to sharpen it against the iron fence, which has now been built for the synagogue. Again for security reasons, this person was detained and it turned out that he is not even a palestinian, not an arab, he is a french chechen origin, that is, it can be said that in society there is such a danger, the aggravation of some radical manifestations, and this is very clearly visible in france , the protesters who were in paris, they reproached macron that macron, you do not support the United States of america and in general, dont go to the middle east, why is macron supposed to visit israel this week and support israel in the confrontation with hamas and those who support this movement in the middle east, tell me how the french think, do they think that this is some kind of war, well closer to them than the war in ukraine, that is, how they perceive this war, what is this war for them, is this war for them, these people who live next to them, who support the palestinians, and who are part of French Society, who in any at the moment they can behave, well, lets say, not exactly as the french think, but yes, there is already information that macron will go to israel tomorrow, so we will wait for some new statements from him, and indeed, we can say that for the french, that is, for the french, it is probably the greatest of all in the entire european union, for the french, an escalation in the middle east means the possibility of an escalation here in france, because next to the french live representatives of many other nationalities , many muslims, a large Muslim Community, as i said, and therefore for a frenchman, that is a terrorist that is much more dangerous than putin somewhere in ukraine with deadly missiles, and how has the attitude towards what is happening in ukraine changed now. And in general, the aggressive policy of the kremlin, and not only in relation to ukraine, in relation to the whole world, do they perceive him as the same criminal, as we . And it is indisputable, indisputable, that putin is a criminal, that ukraine must be helped and that ukraine must win, this has not changed, despite all the threats from the middle east, after all, europe, the europeans, and the french and brussels and thank god european officials support us, they are going to help us, of course it will be a little more difficult, because some funds and some weapons may be redirected to the area of the middle east conflict, but nevertheless, ukraines support remains, that is indisputable. Thank you tatyana, it was tatyana vysotska, our correspondent in strasbourg and in the european institutions, thank you for watching us and thank you. That you support us on our youtube and facebook platforms, friends, we are live on the tv channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, you can participate in our vote, because we are asking you about whether you follow the events in israel, yes no, or your thoughts, please write in your comments. Next , we are in touch, we are reestablishing contact with valery chaly, a politician, diplomat and former ambassador. of the country in the United States of america. Mr. Valeriu, one of the leaders of the republicans in the United States senate , mitch mcconnell, said that china, russia and iran are the new axis of evil in the world, what else did mcconnell say, lets listen. I think the Biden Administration sent the wrong signal when us troops. Out of afghanistan, it was like giving putin the green light to invade ukraine, and we see that iran, the main sponsor of terrorism, is sending drones to russia and supporting hamas, so its all connected , you cant single out one part and say were only going to deal with that, we have to respond to the conditions that exist and are a threat to the United States, the iranians are also a threat for us, we are also dealing with this axis of evil china, russia, iran, because it is a direct threat to the United States. Mr. Valeriu, do these words mean that the United States of america is ready to increase its military potential, taking into account the threats, coming from iran, china and russia, simply put, are we facing another arms race, as it once was. But given the threats and challenges facing the United States of america . Well, its already going, that is, its going now, so to speak. About the obvious things, that is, there was not a sufficient number to lead the soldiers of the 21st century, everyone thought that these would be fifthgeneration wars, but here it turns out to be the fourth, and it is necessary to produce rzv, tanks and everything else, but the main competition will be do not deploy here, the main one competition will take place in space where there is space Intelligence Data , where there are opportunities that could not be imagined before and there are also opportunities to counter the adversaries, well, for example, to put the entire gps communication of the country there, which will make it impossible for it to simply take military action , therefore, in principle, this race is going on, and cyberspace is going there, if we talk about, for example, the third world war, when many say that the third world war has already begun, well, frankly speaking, not very much. On this side, what there it started that i, for example, i think that, thank god, we do not see fullscale regional wars, our problem is that the russian war is against ukraine, that is, the oneman selfdefense of ukraine, unfortunately, so in principle, it is bad for us, but there is no such deployment on the entire europe of the war, we restrain russia, therefore, in principle, i will not say that the third world war has begun, but here. What is happening in cyberspace is already close to the third world war, because the number of those participating in this war has already exceeded a dozen countries with great capabilities, there are constant attacks, counterattacks, there are constant attempts to increase their capabilities and, lets say, make these weapons very deadly , well, but it will take time, because countermeasures are also being taken, in relation to the nuclear arms race, there will be threats, i just want to remind that even threats to use weapons of mass destruction are also war , that is, it is spelled out, and therefore, if russia continues to threaten, it will obviously also be perceived as provocations to the outbreak of a world war, but in my opinion russia has no possibility of further actions , in relation to china, everything here is much, much more. More complicated, i will tell you my impression , for some reason it was believed that everything was limited only to the number of troops and equipment. In fact, as russias war against ukraine revealed, timing is very important , i. E. The timing of conflicts, if it is a conflict even of high intensity, but short, then it is one story, and if it is a conflict lasting for years, as in our case, even in such a uh, hot state, as it is now, it uses all the resources of the state, there is already this gradation of countries, i i will say, maybe not a popular thing, everyone made fun of the fact that russia is the second army of the world, in fact , the rating made by a respected institution takes into account the territory of the country, the population of the country, many factors that are not purely military, so on. From this point of view, maybe it would be fair, but this ranking does not take into account such things as the consolidation of the nation, motivation in defense against invaders, it does not take into account such things as the education of the main fighters, well, that is, look at who is fighting in our country, we have mobilized people fighting, only they have a higher one education is much more than that in russia, in russia they mobilized styurem, i. E. People. Who were sent to just to hang out, we have people fighting who had experience in their civilian life, and therefore, in principle, these things are not taken into account, but unfortunately, the war kills both of them equally, so uh, i think that if you add all these factors, then in the first place now in the world is the usa, obviously, uh, ukraine, i wont say more, i think , that maybe china is already in second place in the world, if you add certain factors, and ukraine is obvious should move up a few positions, because few people in the world can do it to field a million motivated fighters who know how to fight and, well, have some of their own, lets say, life experience, so im sure that according to these criteria, ukraine is among the ten leading armies at the moment the world, even without having all the numbers, all the weapons that they have. Well, why did i take so long to say this . Because china. And the usa, the main adversaries, i think that their strength depends on what alliances they form, the participation of ukraine in the us union is very will strengthen us, and china will obviously weaken, and vice versa, but ukraine cannot sit on the fence, we will have to choose, we have made our choice, it is nato, the european union, the United States, so we now have to see what risks the new situation creates for us , and the fact that mitch mcconnell, the leader of more. In the senate, he uses such strong language, very strong language, joining china to the axis of evil, to be honest, i heard everything in america, the opponents, in the doctrine, they have all these enemies, but be that as it may, the news of evil, i have not heard such a thing before, the first once heard, thats why i, ill be honest with you i will say that i believe that china can still take another role, i would not speak so harshly now, realizing that china will never be. Our strategic partners, as we wrote under yanukovych in some documents, this is all a delusion, china cannot be our strategic partner, because it has an internal authoritarian regime , not at all democratic like the one in the country, we, the basic things do not coincide with us, whatever pragmatic interests there may be, and we understood this now during the war, therefore , but we have to Pay Attention to the way it is evaluated in the United States, to me, this situation is much more serious than Mitch Mcconnells sword assessment, much more serious than the fact that there are six ships in china that have sailed somewhere, and i would very much like