An increasingly strong connection is being built, and this means. That we are already sitting on the same plane with them, and the story, roughly speaking, is that this chair is not flying to new york, but the whole plane is flying, and that doesnt fly, well, it wont, of course, sir valentin, here it is actually worth reminding that not only us President Joe Biden in the first days of the terrorist invasion of israel supported the leadership, the country of israel and the president of ukraine despite the war, so despite the war, Volodymyr Zelenskyi was one of the first World Leaders to express words of support , and was even going to israel and here, mr. Bohdan, i would like to discuss this situation with the visit of the president of ukraine, because well, we saw a whole landing, a whole landing of european leaders, there were sunak, and scholz, and the president of the United States, joe biden, and macron , all of them have already visited israel and expressed their words of support in person, however, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelskyi has not been there yet, i remember that even some of my interlocutors said that this thesis, they said that the president of ukraine was denied all of this, means that informational a psychologically special operation by the Russian Special services, but in the end the minister of Foreign Affairs of ukraine, Dmytro Koleba , confirmed that it was incorrect to talk about the refusal of the visit, however, in israel they told volodymyr zelsky that it was necessary to wait, what is this request to wait connected with, because this is the answer, it came, if im not mistaken, either on the same day, or against the background of the telephone conversation of israeli Prime Minister netanyahu with the war criminal, putin. I think that, well, in our context , yes, lets say, yes, before hamas directly carried out these attacks on israel, we have a context of bilateral relations, well, it had a different dynamic, that is, yes, it was quite so wavelike, we expected from israel more and in the context of support, positioning and assistance, but no received this, and we had such sensitive questions, yes, they remain, which we found. In a kind of bilateral relationship, but really, when this happened, such a terrorist attack directly in relation to israel, we as a country that directly fight, yes with terrorism and with russian war criminals, we expressed our solidarity support, while also expecting, yes, in the opposite direction , a corresponding reaction, it is restrained so far, i think that we will wait, again, how it will continue. These events in primarily in the middle east, so i wouldnt dramatized and did not emphasize as much as possible why , in fact, so far no such visit has been made in, you know, some of the leaders went to china , the war criminal putin was also there , representatives of the taliban, orban also went there, someone went to israel , for example, and here the question immediately arises, probably from our viewers too, but where is this about these two camps. Lets put it this way, which split up precisely against the background of the war, in the middle east, yes, where is Volodymyr Zelenskyis position here, well , its the same as that part of it went on a rampage criminal authorities, and the other part went to the gathering of Law Enforcement agencies that are fighting against these criminal authorities, that is, there can be no compromises here, that s all, and as it was right, someone from the Ukrainian Police officers said about orban, i hope he washed his hands after that, thats why you also wouldnt dramatize the story of the president of ukraine, israel, who has not been visited yet, because after all, i still dont understand why, no, well, look, there its not just about a visit, its about what this visit has to be productive, that is, based on the results of this visit, we hope to receive something from israel, and israel would like to receive something accordingly. From us and given the Current Situation, israel is probably not to the point of promising us something or helping us, plus israel still has its own problems. Well, you cant consider this as just bilateral relations, which take place in a political vacuum, there are israels relations with iran, there are israels relations with saudi arabia, which, well, recently they tried to normalize, many connect this pranks, yes terrorists, just like trying to derail the agreements with saudi arabia, which could be a huge push for a settlement. It must be understood that between saudi arabia and iran there are huge frictions and huge problems, yes, i am not talking about the factor, sunnis, shiites, but about the fact that they have problems in the same yemen, roughly speaking, yes, that is, in them, well, many people try to present this muslim islamic world as something whole and monolithic, but this is not so, and again, the specific relations of saudi arabia with by the United States, for example, relations in the field of opec, for example, well, mutual , the embargo on russian oil, roughly speaking, the positions of opec again, that is. This is a much more complex problem, it cannot be reduced exclusively to some kind of, you know, emotionally pleasant is it unpleasant for us to see someone there somewhere, there are very real pragmatic interests behind all this, and today , well, it boils down to the fact that, after all , the priority for ukraine and the priority for israel is still not the establishment of bilateral relations, that after all we we establish relations with. Third countries, which in turn, well, perform the role of a kind of, well, transmissions, well, that is , roughly speaking, and we build relations with the states, and israel builds relations with the states, respectively, this is what makes us connects, well, we are building relations with the European Union and nato, and israel is building relations with the European Union and nato, and this is also a configuration that connects us, but directly simply at the level of some interstate relations, well, so far we have achieved well, probably not what is desired, but more productive, but im sure that its a matter of time, and realistically, i wouldnt dramatize how all of them told there, someone went, didnt go, wanted to, like some, started hysterics , well, i think that the one who most of all, the czech can make his grayfaced visit to israel and show that some ukrainian politicians are accepted there, thank you, mr. Anton, lets go back with you as an economic expert, actually to this. Amount of aid over almost 62 billion dollars, let s try to estimate how much it is and on how will this aid be mostly spent when we receive it . There, well, i think that it is quite difficult to talk about specific amounts in general, because part of the aid is not allocated between , aid that will go purely to ukraine, or israel or something else, and you need to understand that in fact the bill from the budget is a proposal of the white house , yes, and specific budgeting will depend on the legislators who will have to vote, that is, this is a request, yes, how much can this amount change according to your forecasts, or according to your experience . Eh, cant change not only the amount, but also the purpose of payments, that is, the amount at the end can remain the same. But the purpose itself can be different, if we are talking about the sums that go to ukraine, it is 12 billion dollars for the Ukraine Security assistant initiative, which is logical, it is called that, and 18 billion dollars for replenishment of warehouses, they are somehow, somehow will be distributed between israel and ukraine, but most of this money will most likely end up in ukraine. But again, not in the form of money, but in the form of weapons. For example, the United States has currently issued israel some of the shells that were reserved for ukraine, but they were territorially located in israel, and at the moment it was easier to give them to israel, which has a certain deficit there. Also important, i think, is the amount that will be spent on Cyber Technical and intelligence support , but also on expanding production, this is actually a very important thing, because now everyone understands that the war of the future that both israel and the United States have been preparing for , it will be different from the real war, which we will all face, we already clashed, israel has already clashed, and in the United States, most likely, everything is ahead, and for example, there was a problem there with the production of stingers, because they were not produced, because in the concept of war that existed before the start of a fullscale war before the attack on israel, yes they imagined the war somehow wrong. Now it all needs to be changed, the production of weapons needs to be expanded and investments are needed for this, and 14. 4 billion is also allocated for. There is also direct Financial Support for ukraine, of course, macrofinancial, it will of course be received ukraine, it is 11. 8 billion dollars at the request of the white house, well, in fact, from the point of view of ukraine, it is a huge amount, because all that is allocated to us personally by the imf, yes, it is 15. 5 billion dollars there for 4 years, part of which we already. Already received, 10, just for a year from the United States, thats a lot, yes, you shouldnt think that if there are any problems there, if we dont get all the sums, then what we get is not enough, its really a lot of money, purely for us, and its only direct budget support, yes, besides that there are other supports, regarding our refugees, regarding additional programs of support or development of ukraine. There, in fact, large amounts of money are still coming in, thats why i think that actually purely from what we need to be able to get from the United States, the very request of the white house, it is big, yes, to what extent it will be supported and what part there will be 80 of ukraine, 85, maybe 75, this is a debatable question, but, yes , the most important thing is that, lets say, despite the dispersion, yes, well, not dispersion, despite the support of both ukraine and israel, we will see what we see, which is great Financial Support is also planned for our state. Thank you, anton shvets, economic expert, serviceman of the defense forces, joined our broadcast. Mr. Bohdan, finally, we have already spoken indirectly about the future of relations between ukraine and israel, and recently, yes, despite the fact that the leaders of israel do not yet draw direct parallels between hamas and putin, as one of the leaders of the party does , in particular netanyahu, recently ironically it happened that , ironically, speaking on rushed today, he turned to the russians and said that quote russia supports nazis who want to commit genocide of our people, russia will pay, listen to me carefully, we will finish these nazis, we will win the war, and after that we will make sure that ukraine wins, we will make sure that you pay for what you, as russia, made the end of the quote, and mr. Bohdan, tell me, in your opinion, whether israel will draw certain conclusions in its relations with russia after the end of this war, because we remember that the same netanyahu, well, he tried, at least not that neutral, even warmer relations should be observed with war criminal putin. Well, unequivocally, the Current Situation will change the relations and positioning of israel in the context of building future bilateral relations with russia. These are the first and second reasons why this actually happened within the framework of our bilateral relations, that is, yes, we expected more, but we did not always receive it in return from israel, or rather from the israeli authorities, because it has its own history, so to speak, of interpersonal relations between netanyahu and putin, it was quite long, lets say, and there is just the right context regional, that is, the middle east. In this context, well, russia is also present, has always been, to one degree or another, and within the framework of this, i think, israel was also, so to speak, building its relations with russia, but in this complex, but my colleague also noted in such a complex middle eastern vector and direction, where there are Different Countries , where different interests are concentrated, where there are also influences of key, global players, and i think israel hoped that such its position in the context of the russianukrainian war, yes lets say, not quite troubling for the kremlin, maybe it will be an opportunity for them to protect themselves from, lets say, drastic actions, of their opponents, at least iran, and they saw, maybe, that russia also has certain contacts and cooperation with this. State , thats why this kind of positioning, it will be dictated first of all by the interests of israel, that is, yes, the authorities, which are there, and the factors of patriots should not be excluded either, there are a lot of them, so this domestic political factor, it is also important, it should also be included in this one the whole palette is complex, relations between Different Countries and in particular our bilateral relations, thank you, an expert on international issues, joined our broadcast, thank you, thank you, mr. Valentin, lets sum up, this is bidens address, first of all, why did it sound right now , and secondly, what was the main, key thesis the democratic world against russia . No, the democratic world against the terror of terror against those who want to destroy the foundations on which todays world is based, and which give us the right to call the modern world as civilized, that is, it is a cool phrase, someone wrote that while israel , well, ukraine wants to protect its citizens from barbarians, to protect civilization from barbarians, well, in russia and some other territories, local political regimes are trying to protect their barbarians from civilization, thats all, everything is very simple and this confrontation, it is quite selfevident, and you didnt get the impression that it was some kind of call to action from biden, that is, a certain acceleration of processes, because he emphasized on what america can pay more expensive later, these are obvious things, i will tell you more that america could already pay less, and the most important thing is that we would pay less if we had at our disposal sooner all those tools that reach us today, that is, we are talking about , first, lets start with antiaircraft defense, first , yes the sky over ukraine is closed, remember, the first yes, so to speak, our demands and appeals to civilized humanity, then, armored vehicles, then heavy armored vehicles. Artillery, then aircraft, tanks, planes, well, these today longrange missiles, and thats all, its very slow, i understand why weve already discussed, i dont want to repeat myself, but nevertheless it should be understood that after all, lets put it this way, this is a drag, it costs us very much, and really, if it could be overcome, roughly speaking, the same Russian Defense structures, when they had not yet had time to build them , if we had the necessary tools, then yes, we have these tools today, but the russians already have them appropriate protective structures, and we already lack these tools, we need them additional, as a matter of fact, well, and supplies and additional tools, so well, biden said everything absolutely correctly, but i will repeat that this is really a call to action, but also an appeal to the citizens of the United States, secondly, it is also an appeal to you and me, that we will be supported. And thirdly, this is also an appeal to putin and the russians so that they do not harbor illusions, that something may change and that something will not be the way it is now, no, this will not change, there was enormous inertia in order to move the process from a standstill, but for today day and stop, well, all this machinery is simply impossible, that is how putin imagines , well, even more so, again. Democratic regimes, which exist, in particular, the United States of america and our main partners, that is, simply explain even to their own voters , why did we get a bunch of resources here, as a result, we came to some strange , unacceptable ending options, well, it will be a collapse and a disaster for those political regimes, which , in fact, did not just show their support for us, but actually provided such support, so believe me, the probability that we will soon see some dramatic. Changes in the political elites in those states that support us, well, they tend to zero, i tend to think that we will continue to receive all the necessary support, yes mr. Valentin , thank you for being with us today, it was a smooth valentine , a political scientist, thank you, we discussed such an inspiring speech by joe biden, we will watch its aftermath, and we will see who heard this speech and the words that he addressed, i did anyone not hear the workers of those airfields that were attacked. Where a lot of their military equipment, planes and personnel were destroyed, they are already somewhere listening to kabzons songs, at his concert in hell, we give thanks for this, not only to the United States , and to the armed forces of ukraine, yes, who professionally perform their work, regarding the liquidation of the occupiers on ukrainian land, well, now lets talk about information attacks, which also take place against the background of the situation we have at the front, focused that these these information attacks not only on ukrainians inside ukraine, not only on our partners abroad, but also on ukrainians abroad. In particular, we will talk about this with mykola balaban, deputy head of the center for Strategic Communications and information security. Congratulations, congratulations studio, glory to ukraine. Glory to the heroes. So, well, to destroy, lets say , the image, to destroy support for our refugees abroad, russia has been trying since the first days of